G5 Tiger problems

My brother has a G5 1.8 single processor running Tiger 10.4.11 on both his primary and backup drives. Recently he's had lots of problems that we just cannot explain.
Recently he tried to install the latest Security update on the primary drive and the installing quit saying it could not be installed. But it went into the spinning ball and would not restart. He started up on the backup drive and after running Techtool Pro twice to make repairs he got the primary drive to boot.
We checked software update but the Security update was not shown but Safari was. So he tried to install Safari but it told him he could not install it because he needed 10.4.11 installed and that's what he has running.
So he checked Software update on the backup drive but there was not Security update shown. So we downloaded it from the web site and tried to installed but it said there was a problem and could not be installed.
Two months ago he lost the primary drive system and we had to erase the drive and reinstall everything and do all the updates. He could not remember all the details as to why or how this problem happened.
I've run Macs for 25 years and cannot figure out what's going on. Can someone help please.
Your help would be appreciated,
Rookie

He erased both hard drives using Disk Utility so I do not know if that zeros out data.
TTP repairs volume and file data. Some how that got the primary drive so it would start up again.
How can the Apple web site say he has to have 10.4.11 installed to install Safari 3.2.3 when he has that running on both drives? that somehow is a clue to what's going on but I don't know what. when he erased both drives a few months ago he installed Tiger and then did the combined upgrade to 10.4.11. Apple upgrades don't recognize he's running 10.4.11 on both drives.
This machine is 4 or 5 years old. Would a weak clock battery cause this kind of issue?
Thanks,
Rookie

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I installed "avast" for mac, ran it. it came up with a lot of error codes, which I deleted and now I have no imovie, iphoto, garage band, big bang games and who knows what else. including a mac version of "check up" which i paid for. How can I reinstall these things? I tried putting the install disk in and they just pop back out. Please help a foolish artist regain his mac.
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