Reverting to tiger problem

So I installed Leopard, but this being a G5 it didnt run so well as I would have hoped it would. I ended up having all sorts of problems with the new OS, so I opted to use the system discs to revert back to Tiger. The re install went OK (there really needs to be a hard CD tray eject button ) but now that im in tiger, i cant get system preferences to launch. I click it, and an icon STARTS to come up, then goes away. No error message or problem, just goes away. This is obviously a problem. Im hoping this is an easy fix. Can someone help me get this fixed?
Thanks.

Hi David, & a warm welcome to the discussions!
(there really needs to be a hard CD tray eject button
Oh man... a pet peeve of mine for years... what a crazy deal!
Generally that "Bounce" means you need to use Disk Utility to Repair Permissions.

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schmete wrote:
I have a MacBook that I recently installed Leopard into, but I need to revert back to Tiger, as this specific piece of hardware is not supposed to have Leopard installed. But I have a problem. There are some programs installed into the computer that need to be on it before I return it to someone. Is it possible to revert from Leopard to Tiger and still keep all these programs?
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I would like some advice on installing Tiger on an IMac PowerPC G4 (700 MHZ machine). This machine has 512 MB SDRAM. The machine is currently running Mac OS 10.3.9. Thus far I have been unable to install Tiger.
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I found the article you sent me to so fascinating with the pictures.
Sad to say, that this is completely beyond me from a mechanical and personal dexterity perspective. I actually only knew what two items were in the tools required list. I think I could only get through two steps: set imac on soft surface (but not wool blanket) and take the bottom off.
Therefore, I think the next step is to go to the Mac store with my problem description and the imac and see what they can do.
Based on reading the article, I think I should also have more memory installed if in fact, they are going to take the bottom off at the Apple store. Would you agree?
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cheers

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See if you can send it back. E-Bay has alot of machine specific disks for sale. That is why most of us here don't recomend buying OS software on E-Bay.
The Retail disk is black in color. PriceGrabber.com lists one for sale for at Amazon.com.
Cheers! DALE

G5 Tiger problems

My brother has a G5 1.8 single processor running Tiger 10.4.11 on both his primary and backup drives. Recently he's had lots of problems that we just cannot explain.
Recently he tried to install the latest Security update on the primary drive and the installing quit saying it could not be installed. But it went into the spinning ball and would not restart. He started up on the backup drive and after running Techtool Pro twice to make repairs he got the primary drive to boot.
We checked software update but the Security update was not shown but Safari was. So he tried to install Safari but it told him he could not install it because he needed 10.4.11 installed and that's what he has running.
So he checked Software update on the backup drive but there was not Security update shown. So we downloaded it from the web site and tried to installed but it said there was a problem and could not be installed.
Two months ago he lost the primary drive system and we had to erase the drive and reinstall everything and do all the updates. He could not remember all the details as to why or how this problem happened.
I've run Macs for 25 years and cannot figure out what's going on. Can someone help please.
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He erased both hard drives using Disk Utility so I do not know if that zeros out data.
TTP repairs volume and file data. Some how that got the primary drive so it would start up again.
How can the Apple web site say he has to have 10.4.11 installed to install Safari 3.2.3 when he has that running on both drives? that somehow is a clue to what's going on but I don't know what. when he erased both drives a few months ago he installed Tiger and then did the combined upgrade to 10.4.11. Apple upgrades don't recognize he's running 10.4.11 on both drives.
This machine is 4 or 5 years old. Would a weak clock battery cause this kind of issue?
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Scott,
This is all easily rectified, but I recommend that we proceed carefully. In order for the instructions I will give you to work correctly, without causing any further problems, you must be organized. All of your files must be either in your own HOME folder, or on an external/secondary volume (not somewhere "loose" on your startup disk). Is it safe to assume that this is the case?
First, let's take care of everything in your HOME folder. You mention that you are using Tiger (10.4) and Jaguar (10.2). Therein lies the problem; 10.2 and earlier used a different paradigm for the "default" group to which users belonged. This discepancy in the old and new groups to which you belong(ed) is causing the permissions problems. The short version is that you no longer belong to the same groups, so cannot always write files to directories created by your "old" user.....
* Open /Applications/Utilities/Terminal. At the prompt, copy and paste the following text into the Terminal window:
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then press <RETURN>. You will be asked for your admin password. Enter it (it will not be echoed) and again press <RETURN>. Wait for the prompt to return, then quit Terminal. This will reset the ownership and the group of your HOME folder, and its entire contents, to yourself as your current user.
Now, we will do the same for the contents of any external drives or "secondary" volumes. Open Terminal again. At the prompt, copy and paste this text into your Terminal window:
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Revert to Tiger

I just received my new computer - Leopard is not working for me at all. I mainly do music and even Apple's own program - Logic, is happier on Tiger, not to mention most of my other music software. Is there any way to gracefully return to Tiger on this computer? Remember, this computer came pre-installed with Leopard so it has never run Tiger. I do have a Super Duper copy of my previous computer which was a G5 running OS X 10.4.11. Is it possible to start up using my original computer, make this Quad-core the Target , format it, and then restore this drive with my G5? I would lose the last 3 days worth of work but at this point, it would be so worth it! Any help? Thanks.

First problem is that there are known issues of music software not working with Leopard. As I said, everything from Apple's own Logic to Native Instruments to Spectrasonics. I've read posts in many different forums specifically documenting this. Second problem - I hate spotlight and time machine. I can turn Time MAchine off but Spotlight is built wrong. I have many firewire drives as well as internal hard drives with lots of data. I don't want or need Spotlight to analyze everything I have. I don't always have the same drives attached, I also attach other drives when transferring in projects - this creates havoc with Spotlight. So, you suggest turning Privacy on - what if I want to search for something that hasn't been indexed? Won't work - it only works with drives that have been indexed. I like the old method much better. But, still by far the most important issue is the fact that it is not compatible with a lot of music software that I use daily. I'm sorry I didn't ask about that before I purchased the computer.
Like I said, back to my G5 and when Leopard fixes it's spots, I'll return for round 2.

Tiger problems - is the iBook the cause???

Hello,
I have recently over the past week or so, had numerous serious problems with Tiger. It has been running extremely strangely. I've got an iBook gG4 with 256 mb RAM and 1.3Ghz processor. There have been many problems, but here are the main ones:
- My Bluetooth mouse suddenly stopped working, and I had to delete it and then reconfigure it.
- It sometimes doesn't go to sleep, and will just freeze on the main desktop display. This is linked to the fact that...
- The actual desktop freezes; menus take forever to load and even when clicked on, this generally don't seem to work.
- Spotlight stops working and takes forever trying to find an obvious file, which after 2 or 3 minutes (during which nothing else seems to work), it will say that it hasn't found the file.
- It takes ages to shut down or startup: the rotating wheel on the white/cream background goes on forever...one time up to about 10 minutes.
- When I started up iTunes this morning, it took ages, and then said that it was importing my media library. It then said it couldn't because the file was damaged. I then only had about five albums left there.
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Regards,
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(PS: I have posted this message in the Tiger forums, but was wondering if it was an iBook problem that anyone else had had)

Most of us in the forums feel 512mb is the minimum you should have to run Tiger correctly. I would add more then that if you can swing it.
Cheers!
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My main computer is a desktop iMac and I continue to use my 12 inch PB as a mobile backup. These days, I use it for web browsing, email and some video (I upgraded to 1.5 GZ). I've noticed when I DON'T have the power plugged in, the battery on this thing drains like nobody's business.
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Yep - time for a new battery.
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How can you be so sure?
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http://www.macmaps.com/badram.html
According to:
http://support.apple.com/kb/HT2191?viewlocale=en_US
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- * Links to my pages may give me compensation.
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