Garritan and Vokator in 7.2.3

I recently bought an Intel Quad 2.3GHz, 4GB Ram. I've updated to 7.2.3, running Mac OSX.4.8
Logic no longer recognises Vokator, or Garritan Personal Orchestra (about 90% of my files used garritan).
The AU scan does not even show them as failed validations. VST plug ins are present (I know that's not the same thing as AU, but I cannot find AU plug ins anywhere, and was checking that installation had worked.
Can anyone suggest how I might get these working again, especially garritan.
I'm beginning to suspec this is a problem with the Intel machine, as neither appear in Kore either, despite the VST pis being in place.
many thanks

VST plugs went the way of the dinosaurs under OSX. Simply put, VST plugs are not compatible with OSX, which runs AU (audio units) plugs only.
I've read about some things called 'VST wrappers' which allow the use of VST plugs under OSX. Do some research to see if this kind of thing would work for you. Otherwise, you'll have to update/upgrade from your VST versions to AU versions of your plugs.

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A Choir Query: from FinalePM to LogicXP (and back)

The Challenge:
A Mac-based filmmaker/video editor anxiously seeks advice from experienced users of Finale and Logic Express who know the inner mysteries of MIDI (and may also be proficient with GarageBand).
In a nutshell, I'm struggling to understand the simplest way (if there is such a thing) to add some specific non-orchestral sounds to my Finale PrintMusic Instrument List, to beef up the playback of some original compositions.
And failing that, the simplest way to use some of the specific SmartMusic SoundFont samples included with FinalePM in a GarageBand or a LogicExpress project.
The Rest Is Background and Elaboration:
I've spent the past few weeks using Finale's PrintMusic2006 to develop some musical underscores for a short film I'm now editing (using FinalCutPro 5). The simple arrangements I've created using PrintMusic's built-in SoftSynth player and the SoundFont instruments package so far work pretty well as demos to accompany the printed notation, and that was their original intention. But parts of them actually sound not too bad, and are close to being useable for the film itself. So now I'd like to see if I can take the playback aspect even further, and use PrintMusic (either on its own or in combination with other software) to generate a more polished final output.
So far though, my experience with the other music software available to me has been frustrating:
- GarageBand3 will import a MIDI file exported from PrintMusic, but only at a single tempo. This one-tempo-only-per-project limitation is a major roadblock for me, because while this music is hardly sophisticated, it does have tempo variations, as well as key and time signature changes.
- SoundtrackPro, supposedly a higher-end app than GarageBand, won't even import a standard MIDI file. (What's up with that, anyway? I still haven't quite figured out where STP lies on the GarageBand-LogicExpress-LogicPro spectrum.)
- and LogicExpress (which I don't yet own but am testing a trial version of) - aside from being a whole new learning curve I really don't have time to get into right now - doesn't even have basic versions of the software instruments I'm trying to find better quality versions of, such as Harpsichord, Bagpipe (yes, the music involves a very strange mix), and most of all, choral/choir effects (more human-sounding Oohs, Ahhs, Doos, and Mmms, both male and female).
The Arrangements:
The instruments I've used in PrintMusic for playback of the different versions of the film's music are:
- Church Organ,
- Choir Aahs
- Voice Oohs,
- Bagpipe,
- Harpsichord,
- Tubular Bells,
- Woodblock,
- Overdriven Guitar,
- and a couple of bg synth effects.
The organ, harpsichord, guitar, bell and woodblock all sound not too bad in context. The Bagpipe's a bit wimpy, but both it and the Harpsichord are at least better than the ones the Apple apps offer - which is to say, none! And I was especially disappointed to see that even with the addition of hundreds of dollars worth of JamPacks those same apps still don't appear to offer any human voice/choral Software Instrument sounds whatsoever.
I do see such sounds available for purchase at sites such as these:
http://www.soundsonline.com/sophtml/details.phtml?sku=PS13
and
http://www.bestservice.de/detail.asp/en/vocalchoir/extended_classicalchoir/813442a66p249p64p49
(with of course much higher-end and higher-priced options also available).
But the question I'm hoping someone out there can help me with is:
- Can PrintMusic make use of these kinds of samples (either these specific ones, or any other kinds in any other formats -- including the Software Instruments already included in Logic and/or GarageBand)?
- And are there sites from which specific software instruments can be purchased and downloaded a la carte (the same way you can easily preview and then download individual typeface fonts from any number of freeware, shareware, and commercial sites)?
Because even though it's very much a notation program first and an audio-file creation program second, Finale's simple PrintMusic is right now much closer to having the sounds I want for this particular project than the much costlier LogicExpress. But Is there in fact any way to selectively add to the number and variety of Instruments which can be accessed in PrintMusic's Instrument List? And can it utilize additional software instruments such as the choral sounds on Peter Siedlaczek`s "Extended Classical Choir" noted above?
And if (as I just did) I download an ".sf2" formatted sample of a bagpipe, how do I get a Finale (or a LogicExpress for that matter) to actually see the darn thing and make it accessible -- is it as simple as just placing the file in the correct folder? I've scoured the manuals, and I still don't know.
(I see on the MakeMusic site how for the full Finale "exciting libraries of additional instruments are available from Garritan and Native Instruments", which makes me think that instruments in the correct format can indeed be added to a Finale Instrument List -- although things like the Garritan Personal Orchestra package wouldn't help me right now, since the few specific sounds I'm seeking are choral and/or non-orchestral.)
So I'm feeling more than a little lost right now in what seems like a minefield of different and often incompatible synthesizers, sequencers, samplers and samples out there. I'm really hoping someone can at least begin to steer me in the right direction on this question.
Very much looking forward to hearing from you.
Thanks!
John Bertram
Toronto
(Versions of this message have also been posted to other online forums relating to Finale, GarageBand, and MIDI-based music creation on the Mac.)
My system info:
PowerMac G5, dual 1.8 GHz, 3.5 GB RAM, running OSX Tiger 10.4.5
G5 dual 1.8 Mac OS X (10.4.5) Mac user since 1990 (starting on a sleek SE/30)

Thanks for the reply, Justin. (Sorry about the slow response -- I'm a bit swept up with March Break kid stuff.)
Frankly, hiring a tech to help you through the
process is perhaps the best option. A few hours is
all it would take.
Attempts to go in that direction have so far met with limited success, but I'll keep beating the bushes. (Having some trouble connecting with someone with the right combination of experience in the right combination of apps -- Finale, LogicExpress, different samples in different formats, etc.)
I come from Logic Pro so there may
be a few differences (one of the is the EXS24 is
EXSP24-every detail concerning limitations I do not
know).
See what I mean!
Otherwise, I can make a few suggestions to get
you started. If you do this often and really want to
focus on sound quality you'll want a sound library
which is forward compatible. You can then compose in
Finale and move the sequence over to Logic and work
on the sound. If you want to work with soundfonts
DLSMusic device will load them up.
I was getting the impression I'd need a 3rd party utility like SoundFont Synth (http://andydrabble.users.btopenworld.com/soundfontsynth/moreinfo.html) that can use sound font files in GarageBand, Logic, etc. Are you saying that LogicXP can access ".sf2" files, as well as the MakeMusic GM Instruments included with Finale's PrintMusic2006, directly -- without the help of intermediaries like SoundFont Synth? If true, that would be great for me -- but I'm finding the LogicXP documentation more than a little inscrutable so far, and can't find the section that tells me in a nice step-by-step way how to do that.
Drabble's SoundFont Synth does come with exactly that kind of step-by-step guide for using the program with GarageBand, which I'll copy/paste here for anyone interested:
==============
SoundFont Synth is an Audio Unit plug-in designed to make the synthesis of
natural instruments using Sound Fonts, available to GarageBand or any other Audio Unit compatible host.
Main Features
1. Uses Apple's excellent DLS synthesizer engine to produce high quality sounds.
2. Uses industry standard SoundFont files (.sf2) thousands of which are widely available for free download from the Internet.
3. Passes Apple's Audio Unit Validation tests.
4. Can use Pitch Bend wheel to control low pass, high pass, band pass and notch filters.
5. Compatible with GarageBand 1, 2, and 3..
Getting Started (GarageBand)
Start up GarageBand and create a 'Software Instrument' track within your
GarageBand project.
Select the 'Track/Show Track Info' menu item to display the track info window.
Select 'SoundFont Synth' from the 'Generator' pull down menu.
Using the button to the right of the Generator pull down, open up the
Audio Unit editor.
The Sound Font field will default to 'QuickTime Music Synthesizer'. If you have
a Sound Font available on your computer then select it using the 'Choose' button.
Select an Instrument from the 'Instrument' pull down menu.
Using an external keyboard or the GarageBand keyboard, play a few notes
in the C3-C4 range to hear the notes play.
=============
And following those excellent instructions I was indeed able to start using the MakeMusic GM Instruments in GB3. But when I wrote the author and asked if he had a version of those instructions written in "LogicExpress-ese", this was his reply:
John,
I wish I could be of help but I have no knowledge of Logic Express or music for that matter.
I am basically a Computer Designer and Programmer.
To make it work with Logic, you need to follow the same procedure, which I assume is documented, as for any "Music Device" AudioUnit.
Sorry I can't be of more help.
Andy.
So, since LogicPro is way out of my price (& complexity) range for this particular project, I'm back to wondering both how and if Express -- either on its own, or in combination with something like SoundFont Synth, will let me incorporate the following elements:
1) some better quality (but still affordable) human voice/choir sounds, such as the ones offered at:
http://www.soundsonline.com/sophtml/details.phtml?sku=PS13,
OR http://www.bestservice.de/detail.asp/en/vocalchoir/extended_classicalchoir/813442a66p249p64p49
2) some ".sf2" files from sources such as www.sf2midi.com,
3) some of the original MakeMusic GM Instrument sounds included with Finale's PrintMusic2006
4) As well as possibly some of the software instruments included with Logic/GarageBand and maybe some of the JamPacks.
Now assuming I'm using LogicExpress, that last one's a no-brainer of course. But I'm still fuzzy on the workflow involving the first three, and they're the ones I really need for this specific project (and that's all this venture into music production is about for now -- I need to get back to what I should be doing, which is the video editing).
So given that this is not something I'm gong to be doing all that often in the future, should I be considering avoiding Logic altogether, and using what some people tell me are much more beginner-user-friendly apps like Tracktion2 (http://www.mackie.com/products/tracktion/tracktion.html), or MetroSE (http://www.sagantech.biz/products/metro6se.htm)?
Would love to hear from anyone who's used either of the above, especially in terms of accessing the kinds of additional software instruments I listed earlier.
[...] One of the problems is that
Logic has no GM soundset, so getting an AU which you
use with both apps is important. EXS24 will load the
soundfonts if they are in the correct folder-you can
leave them or conert them to EXS24 format. So just
mix and layer until things sound good. You can use
Logic for all of this but you sound like you're more
comfortable in Finale. Let me know what you think so
far...
Am certainly comforatble with the idea of composing in Finale, then moving over into something which easily lets me add the specific instruments I want to "upgrade", while still keeping some of the MakeMusic GM sounds from Finale's Instrument List.
But am still unsure about which apps (or combination thereof) I should be commiting to and start mastering the basics of -- something with the right combination of affordability and simplicity to get this specific job done (yet not TOO simple, as in GarageBand's frustrating inability to vary tempos).
And I'm also just still trying to get my brain around Audio Objects vs. Audio Units, and samplers vs. sequencers, and EXS24 vs. EXSP24, and channels vs. tracks, and on and on. Any recommendations of sites with basic "MIDI and the Mac - 101" plain-English primers would also be gratefully accepted!
Thanks,
jb
G5 dual 1.8; FCP 5.x Mac OS X (10.4.4) Mac user since 1990 (starting on a sleek SE/30)

A Choir Query - from FinalePM to GarageBand3 (and back?)

The Challenge:
A Mac-based filmmaker/video editor anxiously seeks advice from experienced users of Finale and GarageBand who know the inner mysteries of MIDI (and may also be proficient with the likes of LogicExpress).
In a nutshell, I'm struggling to understand the simplest way (if there is such a thing) to add some specific non-orchestral sounds to my Finale PrintMusic Instrument List, to beef up the playback of some original compositions.
And failing that, the simplest way to use some of the specific SmartMusic SoundFont samples included with FinalePM in a GarageBand or a LogicExpress project.
The Rest Is Background and Elaboration:
I've spent the past few weeks using Finale's PrintMusic2006 to develop some musical underscores for a short film I'm now editing (using FinalCutPro 5). The simple arrangements I've created using PrintMusic's built-in SoftSynth player and the SoundFont instruments package so far work pretty well as demos to accompany the printed notation, and that was their original intention. But parts of them actually sound not too bad, and are close to being useable for the film itself. So now I'd like to see if I can take the playback aspect even further, and use PrintMusic (either on its own or in combination with other software) to generate a more polished final output.
So far though, my experience with the other music software available to me has been frustrating:
- GarageBand3 will import a MIDI file exported from PrintMusic, but only at a single tempo. This one-tempo-only-per-project limitation is a major roadblock for me, because while this music is hardly sophisticated, it does have tempo variations, as well as key and time signature changes.
- SoundtrackPro, supposedly a higher-end app than GarageBand, won't even import a standard MIDI file. (What's up with that, anyway? I still haven't quite figured out where STP lies on the GarageBand-LogicExpress-LogicPro spectrum.)
- and LogicExpress (which I don't yet own but am testing a trial version of) - aside from being a whole new learning curve I really don't have time to get into right now - doesn't even have basic versions of the software instruments I'm trying to find better quality versions of, such as Harpsichord, Bagpipe (yes, the music involves a very strange mix), and most of all, choral/choir effects (more human-sounding Oohs, Ahhs, Doos, and Mmms, both male and female).
The Arrangements:
The instruments I've used in PrintMusic for playback of the different versions of the film's music are:
- Church Organ,
- Choir Aahs
- Voice Oohs,
- Bagpipe,
- Harpsichord,
- Tubular Bells,
- Woodblock,
- Overdriven Guitar,
- and a couple of bg synth effects.
The organ, harpsichord, guitar, bell and woodblock all sound not too bad in context. The Bagpipe's a bit wimpy, but both it and the Harpsichord are at least better than the ones the Apple apps offer - which is to say, none! And I was especially disappointed to see that even with the addition of hundreds of dollars worth of JamPacks those same apps still don't appear to offer any human voice/choral Software Instrument sounds whatsoever.
I do see such sounds available for purchase at sites such as these:
http://www.soundsonline.com/sophtml/details.phtml?sku=PS13
and
http://www.bestservice.de/detail.asp/en/vocalchoir/extended_classicalchoir/813442a66p249p64p49
(with of course much higher-end and higher-priced options also available).
But the question I'm hoping someone out there can help me with is:
- Can PrintMusic make use of these kinds of samples (either these specific ones, or any other kinds in any other formats -- including the Software Instruments already included in Logic and/or GarageBand)?
- And are there sites from which specific software instruments can be purchased and downloaded a la carte (the same way you can easily preview and then download individual typeface fonts from any number of freeware, shareware, and commercial sites)?
Because even though it's very much a notation program first and an audio-file creation program second, Finale's simple PrintMusic is right now much closer to having the sounds I want for this particular project than the much costlier LogicExpress. But Is there in fact any way to selectively add to the number and variety of Instruments which can be accessed in PrintMusic's Instrument List? And can it utilize additional software instruments such as the choral sounds on Peter Siedlaczek`s "Extended Classical Choir" noted above?
And if (as I just did) I download an ".sf2" formatted sample of a bagpipe, how do I get a Finale (or a LogicExpress for that matter) to actually see the darn thing and make it accessible -- is it as simple as just placing the file in the correct folder? I've scoured the manuals, and I still don't know.
(I see on the MakeMusic site how for the full Finale "exciting libraries of additional instruments are available from Garritan and Native Instruments", which makes me think that instruments in the correct format can indeed be added to a Finale Instrument List -- although things like the Garritan Personal Orchestra package wouldn't help me right now, since the few specific sounds I'm seeking are choral and/or non-orchestral.)
So I'm feeling more than a little lost right now in what seems like a minefield of different and often incompatible synthesizers, sequencers, samplers and samples out there. I'm really hoping someone can at least begin to steer me in the right direction on this question.
Very much looking forward to hearing from you.
Thanks!
John Bertram
Toronto
(Versions of this message have been posted to other online forums relating to Finale, LogicExpress, and MIDI-based music creation on the Mac.)
My system info:
PowerMac G5, dual 1.8 GHz, 3.5 GB RAM, running OSX Tiger 10.4.5
Mac OS X (10.4.5) Mac user since 1990 (starting on a sleek SE/30)

Hi:
Thanks for the reply and the URLs. (And apologies for the late response.)
Here's a summary of what I've been up to on this front:
I downloaded demos of SoundFont Synth (even coresponded with its author), Metro and Traktion. Have also attended a couple of sessions at the Apple Store here in Toronto, and am slowly starting to get a better handle on this whole mysterious world of MIDI, Music, and the Mac.
With the help of one of the Apple Store advisors, I've finally figured out how LogicExpress can indeed "import" (if that's the right term) and use the MakeMusic GM Instruments, as well as .sf2 files I download, as well as (at least in theory) the particular akai-format choir samples on CD which I'm likely to order (URLs for same are in earlier posts).
At first we were doing this using that SoundFont Synth utility you mentioned -- but the sound we got was noticeably inferior to what Finale's SmartSynth produced while within FinalePM. Then we discovered how LogicXP's built-in EXSP24 sampler could translate the "synthgms.sf2" file (located inside Finale PrintMusic2006 / Component Files), along with any other .sf2 or akai-format samples -- and then play them at much higher quality and with of course many more options to adjust and fine tune them.
So it's looking that will be the best (or at least the most direct) route for me to take for now.
Meantime though I'd be interested in hearing from anyone who's used another 3rd party app called Bidule (from www.plogue.com), which was recommended to me by one of the tech support staff at Finale -- though after checking their website I'm still a little unclear as to whether learning yet another program like this Bidule would be worthwhile for me right now.
In any case, thanks again for your help.
John Bertram
Toronto
PS: For reference, here's the description of the EXSP24 Sampler from the LogicExpress Plug-In Reference pdf file:
"The EXSP24 sample player does not allow new Sampler Instruments to be created, nor editing of existing EXS Instruments (apart from synthesis and modulation options). This functionality, including all sample editing, routing, and instrument creation options is only available in the full EXS24 sampler plug-in, found in Logic Pro.
The EXSP24 is compatible with the EXS24, AKAI S1000, and S3000, SampleCell, WAV, AIF(F), Gigasampler, and SoundFont2 sample formats, as well as the Vienna Library, allowing access to large and comprehensive sampler libraries."

Multiple controllers and AU plugins (or software instruments)

Hello,
This is my situation: 4 students and 4 (electronic) pianos (that can send on different channels).
I also use Logic Pro 9.
Midi interface with 4 ports
I want these 4 students play together performing something like an orchestral score, ie piano 1(or controller 1) plays strings, piano 2 (controller 2) wood, piano 3 (...) brass and piano 4 (...) something like percussion.
Because I'm a classical piano teacher, I want those piano's sounds really like a flute or trumpet or... For that reason I have installed AU-plugin from Garritan and don't use GM instruments.. These Garritan instruments are also used in the notation programs Sibelius and Finale.
I ask this because of the following problem:
If you make a file of 4 tracks using these software instruments and you link each separate track to a midichannel (and make it record affordable) all the 4 tracks sound no matter if you play 1 piano or controller or 2 pianos or 3 or.... I want each controller gives only 1 sound, or, one controller for one midichannel and not that one controller gives (in my case) 4 sounds. To reach this, do I really have to program Logic environment and if so, is there somebody who wants to explain or to help me with this?
Thanks a lot,
PeKes

Hi
You seem to have missed 1 important step (or two):
Settings:Recording (MIDI)
Check the "Auto demix by channel if multitrack recording".
Make sure that you have assigned the 4 tracks to different MIDI channels in the Inspector Track Parameter box.
HTH
CCT

Mac book pro with Komplete 4 and other AU plugins

I just got a full loaded mac book pro, NI Komplete 4 , korg legacy digital edition, Arturia minimoog v. and haven't got any of them to run successfully with Logic pro 7 (7.2.3).
they run as stand alones but logic is having trouble finding them, i have tried the AU manager and it can't see them, All the logic instruments are there, what am i forgeting, i have been pulling my hair out for days.
someone help me please.
sie

Hi,
As the previous poster suggested, not all of the instruments in K4 are universal binaries. I have K4 running on a Mac Pro, and outside of bugs on the NI side, it is working fine with Logic. Run all the updates you can find through the service center. Some of those updates make an instrument a universial binary. For example, out of the box B4 II is still PPC. All the software will run under rosetta, but Logic will only see instruments that are UB. After you run all the updates, you can check which instruments are not UB by going into the system profiler and checking the software tab. From memory, spectral delay and vokator are not, Battery 3, Absynth 4, B4 II, Akoustic Piano, Kontakt, FM8, and Reaktor are all UB.
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Kontakt 4.1 64 bit public beta

Any Kontakt 4 owners are eligible to download - if anyone here can run it, let us know how it works...
http://www.native-instruments.com/forum/showthread.php?t=109169

Progress! Yes! Finally!
Hopefully Izotope, Garritan, and the rest will follow soon too...

I am trying to connect Garritan Personal Symphony to Logic Express and Garageband. A dialog box pops up and asks for plugin Garritan-P. Where do I find it and what do I do with it. I can't locate this plugin doing searches on any of the porgrams.

I am trying to connect Garritan Personal Symphony to Logic Express and Garageband. A dialog box pops up and asks for plugin Garritan-P. Where do I find it and what do I do with it. I can't locate this plugin doing searches on any of the porgrams.

I'm not sure which version of Garritan Personal Orchestra you have or when you are getting a window pop-up, but check this link for starters:
http://afjohnston.blogspot.com/2009/11/using-garritan-personal-orchestra-gpo.htm l

GarageBand and Garritan Libraries (GPO, GJBB)?

Hi all,
I recently purchased Garritan Personal Orchestra and Garritan Jazz and Big Band along with Finale 2006, and am attempting to integrate them with GarageBand. The help section that covers this topic gave me pretty vague instructions, and I was unable to make it work.
Does anyone use Garritan Libraries (or any other soundfont) with GarageBand? If so, could you instruct me on how to integrate them with GarageBand?
Thanks,
Thomas
MacBook 2.0 GHz Intel Core Duo Mac OS X (10.4.7) Software: Finale 2006d, Transcribe! 7.30, GarageBand 3; Hardware: 4GB iPod Mini, iTrip

This thread is the answer to my similar question about adding soundfont voices to GB.
My understanding is that you need a shareware utility called Soundfont Synth. But read the following linked thread as there are some details of note. And follow all the links in the thread.
I was dealing with generic soundfonts downloadable in the public domain. I can only guess that your's will work similarly. But I don't know for sure.
http://discussions.apple.com/thread.jspa?threadID=556451&tstart=0
Good luck.

Colossus, Ivory and Garritan Persional Orchestra doesn't shown up

Hi all,
I've just installed Logic Express yesterday and migrating my stuffs from Cubase to it. Installed and validated Garritan Personal Orchestra, Colossus but they didn't shown up in LE. Stand-alone version works fine. I've checked the Plugins folder and the component files are there. My machine is a MacBook Pro.
Any help would be greatly appreciated.
Thank you,
Kenny.

It didn't even show up in the AU. Further researchs show that since my machine is an Intel mac, those plugins won't work, at least for now.
Thank you,
Kenny.

Logic Express and Garritan Personal Orchestra

Hi. Please can somebody explain (simply!) how to access Garritan sounds in Logic Express 8.
Many Thanks
Nick

Straight from the Garritan website:
http://www.garritan.com/GPO-features.html
+No Sampler Required:+
+The collection comes integrated with the acclaimed Kontakt Player 2 sample player from Native Instruments and works as a virtual instrument. No need to purchase a separate sampler. You can adjust a number of parameters – variability, tuning and other audio characteristics – so you can control the sound of each instrument individually.+
If you installed GPO, create a Software Instrument track using the Kontakt 2 AU plugin.

Garritan personal orchestra and Logic

Hi all,
I just bought the Garritan personal orchestra and installed it but when I open Logic it keeps crashing validation in the AU manager and if I tick it anyway Logic just crashes.
What to do?
Any ideas please.
JBlen

JBlen,
I had the same problem, and it's maddening. The answer is that you have to load all GPO instruments as 'stereo.' It's some compatibility problem with Native Instruments' Kompact player.
Load 'em as stereo and you should have no problems.
Jim
Power Mac dual 2.0 Mac OS X (10.4.2)

Logic Express and Garritan

I'm considering getting Logic Express 8. (Leaving the Win/pc world for my new iMac).
I have some Garritan strings I purchased and also some Giga Studio samples which I love and am accustomed to.
Does anyone know if I'll be able to use these with Logic Express 8?
Thanks, Charlie

Yes...
This copied from the Garritan Personal Orchestra:
"MINIMUM REQUIREMENTS (for Kontakt Player & Sound Library)
Running Personal Orchestra is dependent on the speed of your computer. The faster the processor the better.
2 GB of free hard disk space.
CD-ROM or DVD Drive.
Windows XP, Pentium 4 /Athlon 2.4 GHz or better is recommended.**
Mac OS 10.4 or higher (Leopard updates coming soon), G5 is minimum but may not load the full orchestra. To load a full orchestra a Mac Intelis recommended. **The Kontakt audio engine is designed to make use of the processing power of your computer's CPU. The powerful and complex algorithms of the Kontakt Player work best on modern and fast CPUs. Please also observe the systems requirements of your host application.
The Kontakt Player needs a soundcard for playing the sounds of Personal Orchestra. Standard DirectSound, MME or ASIO drivers required; Windows-compatible MIDI hardware if required.
A MIDI interface is required if you are using a MIDI keyboard, another MIDI controller or an external sequencer. The MIDI interface integrated in many sound cards can also be used.
To play the entire orchestra, we recommend 1 GB of RAM or more. There is a direct correlation between the number of instruments that can be loaded and the amount of available RAM. The more RAM available the better."
http://www.garritan.com/GPO-features.html

Garritan Marching and Big Band

Hello all,
I have been beta testing Garritan's Marching and Big Band Instruments on my Intel iMac using GarageBand 3. Thought you all might like to hear a piece I came up with. Note: I did not do much in the way of plunger muting (though I could have). I just put this together in a few of hours. There is about 16 tracks. Three of them (piano, Jazz Bass, and Pop Drum)are GarageBand-native.
http://schneb.googlepages.com/music8

The bottom line is that has been one of Logic's most glaring "missing features" for years, in my book.
The problem stems from the fact that Logic can't separate the channels (or 'channelize') the volume and pan controls for the individual MIDI channels of a multitimbral virtual instrument. By contrast, Logic has no problem doing this with external MIDI modules. And other DAW's - I'm told - have no problem separating the volume commands for individual channels of a virtual instrument. But Logic "Pro" still can not.
So you have to set up a bunch of virtual 'aux' channels, route the various VI channels to the separate AUX's, then control or automate the volume of those aux channels separately from the 'master' VI. Personally I can't believe people don't complain more about what a needlessly awkward workaround this is, all to achieve the same basic functionality we've had in MIDI for almost 20 years now .
But that's the way it's always been done on Logic, and from the looks of it, there's no reason to expect it to change anytime soon.
Search the forums (or Kontakt's manual or Garritan's site) for info on how to set up numerous auxiliary outs, and that should get you going. There are also numerous tutorials and how-to's on this forum and others, which you can probably find if you search "multitimbral aux".
Lastly, some folks resort to automating volumes within the plugins, ie. adjusting the channel volume sliders on Kontakt's internal mixer while the sequence runs, then editing that automation later in Logic. Again, I think it's a kludgey workaround. But Kludgey Workarounds have always been a big part of the Logic Pro 'experience!'
Enjoy.

Garritan Jazz/Big Band and Logic

Hello. I've mostly used Jam Packs with Logic, I'm new to using another player within Logic, Kontakt is what comes with Garritan Jazz and Big Band. The issue I'm having is when you load a multi/ensemble from Kontakt into Logic, I can't seem to control the volumes separately. It seems to show up in the Logic mixer as "Inst 1" -- is this making sense? Sometimes I'm confused by all the tabs/choices in the mixer section too...but that's probably a different issue. Anyway, if you have any thoughts, I'd love to hear them. Thanks. Bob

The bottom line is that has been one of Logic's most glaring "missing features" for years, in my book.
The problem stems from the fact that Logic can't separate the channels (or 'channelize') the volume and pan controls for the individual MIDI channels of a multitimbral virtual instrument. By contrast, Logic has no problem doing this with external MIDI modules. And other DAW's - I'm told - have no problem separating the volume commands for individual channels of a virtual instrument. But Logic "Pro" still can not.
So you have to set up a bunch of virtual 'aux' channels, route the various VI channels to the separate AUX's, then control or automate the volume of those aux channels separately from the 'master' VI. Personally I can't believe people don't complain more about what a needlessly awkward workaround this is, all to achieve the same basic functionality we've had in MIDI for almost 20 years now .
But that's the way it's always been done on Logic, and from the looks of it, there's no reason to expect it to change anytime soon.
Search the forums (or Kontakt's manual or Garritan's site) for info on how to set up numerous auxiliary outs, and that should get you going. There are also numerous tutorials and how-to's on this forum and others, which you can probably find if you search "multitimbral aux".
Lastly, some folks resort to automating volumes within the plugins, ie. adjusting the channel volume sliders on Kontakt's internal mixer while the sequence runs, then editing that automation later in Logic. Again, I think it's a kludgey workaround. But Kludgey Workarounds have always been a big part of the Logic Pro 'experience!'
Enjoy.

USING GARRITAN JABB WITH LOGIC 8 and KEYSTATION PRO

Anyone out there using Garritan Jazz & Big Band? I can't get any vibrato even though I'm moving the vibrato dial on the screen (this goes for "lite" as well as the regular instruments")
is there some toggle i'm forgetting to use? I do get flutter...
right now pitch bend works, and the mod wheel controls volume.... do i have to assign that wheel or some other dial on my controller to make the other stuff work?

Please check the JABB manual. Although M-Audio's Keystation Pro 88 does not have aftertouch, you can set up any of the Keystation Pro's faders or turn knobs to the CC# that provides the same aftertouch effect. The JABB manual will tell you which CC# to use for aftertouch. (I am away from home and away from my own manual, otherwise I would give you this information.)
Because of all of the CC#'s that are utilized within JABB to help create "real sounding" instruments, I usually do several recordings after the original one for each of the CC#'s that I may use. This includes that "aftertouch" CC# that I've set up on either a fader or turn-knob. This is my work-flow methodology which works well enough for me. Then, I fine-tune the recorded CC#'s information using Hyperdraw.
Without a doubt, this is a labor-intensive process. But with the time and effort put into JABB (and other similar instrumental libraries), comes a more natural-sounding work. At least this is true for my ears, anyway.
Good luck to you!
Ted

Garritan and Vokator in 7.2.3

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