Glossy screens

Hello
I am currently in the market for a MacBook pro. I had a 2008 black MacBook before which I believe had a glossy screen. I have about $2000 to spend total at the most including one to one and a warranty. I would like to buy the 13 inch MacBook pro (i7). While doing research I have been hearing people talking about the glossy screens giving people headaches and that is really scaring me. I am going to use it for Microsoft word and web surfing. I will use it for about 4 hours a day most likely in the evening. Should I worry about the headache factor. As far as the glare goes I have a overhead light right above my desk and windows behind me but they have blinds on them. I can always put a screen protector on from "power support" to give it the matte finish. What do you think I should do? Is it really worth the price to do the 15" MacBook pro matte.
My previous MacBook had the same screen as the white MacBook now but there is less glare on the normal MacBook because it isn't edge to edge glass.
Any help is greatly appreciated.

Thanks for your answer. Hopefully some more people will tell me the same thing. My desk is a little cutout type of thing in a bunch of cabinets and a light above. The cutout is about 2 feet tall and 5 feet wide. The windows are about 10 feet behind where I sit. In front of me there is just a wall.
Thanks so much. Any more responses are appreciated greatly.

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I just bought a 2.5 MBP from bestbuy and before I open it up I want to make sure I didn't get the glossy screen. Is there a way to tell from the box? It doesn't say glossy screen on it but I wasn't sure.
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You may want to check out your local Apple store where both the glossy and matte screens are on display.
Glossy screens provide more vivid, vibrant colors and deeper, richer blacks. They're great for watching movies, viewing photos, etc.
Matte screens are good for use in high-sunlight environments or in situations where you have a lot of light shining on your screen. Many professional photographers opt for these screens because they more accurately reflect how a photo will look when printed. (Don't be confused -- photos look better on the glossy screen, but when you print them they'll look less vivid. Photographers don't like that because it makes it tough to anticipate how a photo will look when printed.)
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You may want to take your laptop and submerge it in a bath...... no please don't do that...
The other supported way is to take a microfiber cloth, dampened with water and clean that way. Your instruction manual with the computer should also have detailed instructions on cleaning the display.
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1. If you have a late-2008 unibody MBP, you are undoubtedly aware that there was never any anti-glare option offered for that machine. So there is no anti-glare display that was made to work with it.
2. If you choose to replace only the LCD panel and not the entire display assembly — which is probably feasible but involves a great deal of painstaking work — you will also need to buy (separately) the aluminum bezel that takes the place of the glossy cover glass panel in models that came equipped with the nonglare screen. The bezel covers and protects the edges of the LCD and the delicate electronic connections there, and hides all that from view.
3. If you go that route, you will have to make sure that the cabling related to the display you are installing is identical to the cabling related to your original display. This means checking to make sure the cable lengths, connectors and routing both within the display assembly and hinge cover and within the lower case of the computer are all the same.
4. If you choose to replace the entire display assembly with one that contains a nonglare LCD, you will have the entire, intact glossy display assembly available to sell afterward. If you replace only the LCD panel, the LCD and glass cover panel that you remove will have much less resale value and are likely to be much harder to sell at all, because you won't practically be able to offer any warranty with them and because there are probably far fewer people willing to tackle the fussy, risky display disassembly process than are willing to replace the whole assembly as a unit.
5. Even if you choose to replace the entire assembly, you will need to verify that the cables dangling from the replacement display assembly are the right lengths and have the right connectors to tie into your lower case properly. Because the assembly will have come from a later MBP model than yours, cable routing and connectors may have changed from one to the other.
If this all sounds more daunting than you were expecting, you may want to consider just applying a nonglare film to the glass covering your present screen. If you aren't happy with the results, you can fall back on the replacement option.

Glossy vs. Non-Glossy Screen - How can you tell?

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If someone came to you on the street with a MacBook Pro, how can you tell if he/she had a glossy or non-glossy screen? Is there something in System Preferences or something that tells you directly? Or do you have to tell by just looking?
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Am I the only one that got a high res glossy screen?!?

Anyone else choose the high res glossy or am I the only crazy one?
I pulled the trigger on a 15" with the high res glossy screen (first mac ever). After reading this board, perhaps I made a mistake and should have gotten the matte screen? I wasn't able to see the matte screen in person and now I am having second thoughts. The glare is a little annoying but only if I am "looking" for the reflection. It also seems all other displays are now predominatly glossy like my tv, iPhone, etc. When i compare my glossy mac to my Dell xps matte screen, it is so much more vivid! Perhaps I am comparing apples to oranges.
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I picked up the high-res glossy screen as well and don't regret it for a second!
I assume the question is about choosing the glossy over the matte and not about the high-res option (which was just a no brainer imo!)
For me it just feels much more like a Mac; I don't really like the bezel around the screen on the matte ones and I definitely know what you mean about the colours seeming more vivid (though in reality, they really aren't)
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IMac Glossy Screen: Photo/Design Professionals

Would be interested to hear thoughts from photography and design professionals who have purchased the new, specifically, 24" iMac with glossy screen and are using it for their work.
I am a photographer and designer, and have mine on order for the 28th, however having read much about the displeasure with glass screen from many users, I am beginning to have reservations about my soon-to-arrive purchase.
I am using the older 20's at the work studio and found them very sufficient for my needs and therefore wanted a similar/better convention at home studio, hence the new machine.
Thank you.

I have to agree in that some of my own stuff looked good on the new glossy screen. It was vivid but the color was not accurate. Generally, glossy screens do not cut it for accuracy and calibration. Possibly this screen is different but then there is this:
http://forums.dpreview.com/forums/read.asp?forum=1017&message=24321625
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When I have discussed the new iMac w/ staff at the Apple Store they steer me to the Mac Pro and 17" MacBook Pro. One went so far as to say using the new iMac would be frustrating because while photos displayed on the 24" screen may look good they would look different when printed. Another solution is to add a 23" or 30" Apple Cinema Display. Seems to defeat the idea of the "all-in-one" iMac though.
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As someone with 20 years professional experience in digital imaging, both in video and stills, Photoshop retouching, Quark press work, and working with everything from Binuscan to Shake, having supervised thousands of press checks and taught thousands of personnel in everything from Newspapers to video Post-houses as a consultant and trainer, I love the glossy screens for the color saturation, rich blacks and fine detail rendition.
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Since I am, after all, in the pro minority, I agree that Apple NEVER should have removed the matte option, and I'd be happy to have, and think it's the ethical thing to do, Apple not only offer matte screens on all laptop products from now on, but that they RETURN to making glossy displays on MacBook Pros (and MacBooks, for that matter) an EXTRA-COST OPTION, and make matte screen displays the standard. That's the fair and logical thing for Apple to do, and I wouldn't mind at all paying for being in the Pro minority by paying an extra $50.00 USD, or even $100.00 over a standard matte-screen display in any and al of the Apple laptop line.
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No offense, but please do not share speculative responses (these forums are notorious for that) I just want people who actually own a glossy screen MBP.
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Thank you so much for answering.
Since I posted this, I've done a few searches on the forums and found some answers.
I'm nervous about using paper towels because I guess I was told never to use that on my eyeglasses so figured it may have the same negative effect on my glossy screen.
Maybe I'm wrong.
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I am reading threads that have people that have the glossy screen option on the MacBook Pros. To those that have them can you please give a really detailed description of this screen with comparisons to the antiglare coating screens and the MB glossy screen. Can you also if possible post as many pictures as possible of it in as many different lightings as possible, and if possible the same exact shot with an antiglare coated screen (maybe an apple external display) for comparision. And can someone comment on the ability to read text off of this screen does it hurt your eyes after an hour of looking at it.
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Pictures probably won't help you make a decision. It is difficult to see the differences between the two with pictures. Why not just check out a few PC notebooks with the glossy screens? I used to own a dell xps gen 2 with a 1920x1200 glossy screen and it was glorious, but the glare was a bit annoying. In reality, I didn't really notice much of a difference playing games; it was only in the windows applications that things looked alot better.
Generally, you'll like glossy if you: Like super bright and contrasty colors, don't use your computer for hours on end and use your computer in a controlled lighting environment. Please realize that you will see glare at some point. There are lots of website that have reviewed the MB glossy screen, why not search for them on google? Arstechnica.com was particularly annoyed with the screen.
Go matte if you plan on luggin the sucker around everywhere and if you plan on doing photo work. I didn't calibrate my MBP screen and my print results are very simliar to what I see on screen! The colors will not be a bright and punchy, but you will have a very nice looking screen!
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