Gnome HAL and GVM

Hi,
Im still struggeling to get Gnome-Volume-Manager working.
Since the last upgrade of HAL and GVM every hardware i have tried has been recognized. :-)
I still however cant get the automont to work.
The device gets recognized and HAL creates the devices.
fstab-sync kicks in and creates nice entries in fstab and creates directories under /media
But the actual mount does not work. Automount does not work. When trying to mount the device as myself i get:
mount: only root can mount /dev/sda1 on /media/usbdisk
and when trying as root:
mount: wrong fs type, bad option, bad superblock on /dev/sda1,
or too many mounted file systems
When looking into /var/log/kernel
FAT: Unrecognized mount option "pamconsole" or missing value
What is this "pamconsole" stuff? Its in the corresponding line in my fstab.
Seems like either im missing some package or a badly configured one?

alexthelion wrote:in /usr/share/hal/fdi/90defaultpolicy/storage-policy.fdi you can disable that pamconsole thing. And you can change /media to /mnt, if you want.
I have noticed that one. But if i understand things correctly. You should not change anything in that file but instead add files in the hal/fdi/95userpolicy instead.
To be honest, I'm a little bit confused about all those new hardware things. udev, hal, dbus, g-v-m. it's not easy to understand which component does what.
For example: if I plug in a USB Mass storage, then hald emits some message via dbus, right? But it seems that hald is also directly calling fstab-sync. So what is g-v-m doing in this scenario? Obviously not the mounting part, or what?
My understanding is this. (Please correct me if im wrong)
UDEV is a userspace replacement for devfs and is responsible for creating the device files in /dev
HAL is a hardware abstraction layer that listens to hotplug and keeps an inventory of the hardware on your machine. HAL also uses dbus the new message bus to notify anyone about changes etc.
Then there are two important listeners for these events.
fstab-sync which listens to added and removed devices. And creates/alters the files in /media and the /etc/fstab file.
Finaly we have GVM, which also listens to these events, and does the actual mounting.
I think that there is something wrong with the util-linux package. util-linux contains among other things the mount command. And it seems like it is mount who does not understand the pamconsole stuff.

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