GOS to BOR

i made a dialog and used the Standard function to attach documents as BOR-Object in the archive(Business Document - Mapping in table TOA01)
You can attach documents which will be saved on the database also (Mapping in table SRGBTBREL).
If you don't know what i'm talking about i use the Function SWU_OBJECT_PUBLISH.
Is there any possibility (a Function would be great) to move Attachement-documents from the Database to the Archive or convert the attachement to a business document and then delete it from the DB ...with a Report (Backgroundtask) ??
This is a very specific Problem i know but perhaps did someone here know anything which could help me.
thanx.

Thanx for reply Sridhar. but it is not my problem.
i think talking about the archive was a bit confusing.
i mean the archivelink.
I try now to explain with other words. In Applications like XK01, XD01, VA01 for example you can attach documents using that toolbox on the top left from the Screen.
For a Customer Tx you have first to make some customizing and define your own documenttype:
That means there can you for example restrict the filetype to pdf.
Customizing table TOAVE Documenttype
Customizing table TOAOM_C Link to content repositories.
Now is that toolbox allowed for your object.
But in the Toolbox you can not only choose "Store business document" you can also pick "Create attachement" (that is a standard function to save documents on the DB.
Now i'm looking for a way to transfer/transform the attachments to a business document via reporting.
Regards,
Laurent.

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Copying and remove BOR-GOS attachments from one object in other object

As it can be realized

I do here so
DATA: logical_system LIKE bapibds01-log_system ,
        all_con LIKE bdn_con OCCURS 0 WITH HEADER LINE
CALL FUNCTION 'OWN_LOGICAL_SYSTEM_GET'
    IMPORTING
      own_logical_system = logical_system.
CALL FUNCTION 'BDS_ALL_CONNECTIONS_GET'
    EXPORTING
      logical_system   = logical_system
      classname        = 'ZURKART01'
      classtype        = 'BO'
      all              = 'X'
      objkey           = '2222222222'
      no_gos_docs      = ' '
    TABLES
*   SIGNATURE           = my_signature
      all_connections = all_con
LOOP AT all_con.
    CALL FUNCTION 'BDS_BUSINESSDOCUMENT_COPY'
      EXPORTING
        logical_system        = all_con-log_system
        classname             = all_con-classname
        classtype             = all_con-classtype
        client                = all_con-client
        object_key            = all_con-objkey
        doc_id                = all_con-loio_id
        doc_ver_no            = all_con-doc_ver_no
        doc_var_id            = all_con-doc_var_id
        new_classname         = 'BUS2014'
        new_classtype         = 'BO'
        NEW_CLIENT            = SY-MANDT
        new_object_key        = '4644444444'
ENDLOOP.
FM ' BDS_ALL_CONNECTIONS_GET ' in the table all_con writes down some lines,
But
FM ' BDS_BUSINESSDOCUMENT_COPY ' gives out a mistake - ' nothing_found '
That I do not as it is necessary

Display GOS without click on 'Service for Object' button

Please try the following step to figure out.
1) VA03
2) At header of report (on the left hand side of 'Display S/O SysB SDI xxxxxxxxx:Overview' ) has a button called 'Services for Object' (GOS)
3) Click on that then it will popup icon menu set. <--- Want this to be displayed when access VA03 by no need to click the button in 2)
My requirement is I want this popup to be displayed suddenly after I access VA03 (no need to click on the Services for Object button anymore).

Could you please provide me any solution, function, example, similar case, etc. (based on 4.6c)?
Thank you all expert in advance.. I'll be here to provide you more information that need.

I found the solution yet. Let me drop a note to be a memorandum.
(1) Insert code into the last line of form USEREXIT_READ_DOCUMENT within report MV45AFZZ
PERFORM UNITEXIT_READ_DOCUMENT.
*{ INSERT
*[Display Attachment Service Automatically]
 DATA: lo_myobject TYPE REF TO cl_gos_manager,
 lo_container TYPE REF TO cl_gui_custom_container,
 ls_object TYPE borident. "BOR Identifier
 ls_object-objkey = vbak-vbeln.
 ls_object-objtype = 'BUS2032'.
 CREATE OBJECT lo_myobject.
 CALL METHOD lo_myobject->start_service_direct
 EXPORTING ip_service = 'VIEW_ATTA'
 is_object = ls_object
 io_container = lo_container
 EXCEPTIONS OTHERS = 2.
*[Display Toolbox]
 CALL METHOD lo_myobject->DISPLAY_TOOLBOX
 EXPORTING is_object = ls_object
 io_container = lo_container
 EXCEPTIONS OTHERS = 2.
*} INSERT
ENDFORM.
(2) Try open VA03 and insert attachment at Service for Object.
(3) Reopen VA03, attachment list displayed suddenly.
Reference Source# SAP Library, search 'Starting Only One Service Directly'.
NOTE: You can use another relevant object by SE24 -> CL_GOS_MANAGER

Generic object services (GOS) - Start workflow box is allways empty

Dear colleagues,
i have installed a brand new IDES ERP 6.0 successfully but when entering a number of standard transactions like mm02, va03, fb03 etc and trying to execute the GOS toolbox, I can never start any workflow. I click on the 'start workflow' button of the GOS-toolboy but the selection box is allways empty. Did I miss anything? Since there are so many BOR objects that apply to the objects of the standard transactions, there should be at least something to start. For example BOR BUS1001 (material master): When in MM02, why does the GOS-toolbox for workflows not show the related workflows that use BUS1001?
Thank you very much for your answers
Best regards
Daniel

Udo,
You should start a new discussion - you'll get more responses.
Anyhoo, to make a workflow appear in the GOS 'start workflow' list, just follow these simple rules:
- confirm which BOR object is involved in your transaction (eg BUS1001006 for MM03)
- make sure that the BOR object is a mandatory input of your workflow
- make sure that there are no other mandatory inputs
- make sure that the workflow (WS*) is set to 'General Task' (nb this is client dependent)
Once all these things are done, refresh the buffer (SWU_OBUF) and it should work.
cheers
Paul

Attachments Activating Generic Object Services (GOS) in VA41/VA42 at item level

Hi to All,
I'm trying to manage attachments for sales document at item level.
I've already read this wonderfull post (Activating Generic Object Services Toolbar in SAP Objects) but I didn't understand how manage attachments at item level.
Please, if anyone has ideas of how to achieve it please share solutions.
Thanks & Best Regards,
Umberto

Hi again,
Thanks for the answers, they were very helpful,
but the customer isn't happy with the "Store business Documents" and it's Drag n' drop interface.
I'm to develop a new GOS menu item, that will show
a normal Open File dialog, and a following popup
where the user can change the document title shown
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ARCHIVOBJECT_CREATE_FILE and ARCHIVOBJECT_GET_TABLE
along with ARCHIV_CONNECTION_INSERT should probably
cover the functionality I need.
I know both the BOR type ID and the object ID is
available to me in the Execute() method of the GOS menu handler I'm overriding, but for the ARCHIV_CONNECTION_INSERT, I'm supposed to supply an AR_OBJECT parameter (I know that this information is stored in the TOAOM table), but I have no clue where to get this information for the current object I'm trying to add an attachment for.
Regards,
Lars Wilhelmsen

Display attachment with GOS-Service direct

Hello,
In my application i´am using the generic object services by starting the service "view attachment-list" directly (in a 4.6C System).
In transaction FB03 it is possible to show the original scanned document from the opt. archive in the attachment list .
The accounting will now be able to see the attachment in the payment proposal list (F110) . I created this in report ZFZALI20 (copy from RFZALI20) in the code below. This works fine for document type 'KN' (FI), but not for type 'RN' (MM).
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FORM anlagenliste.
data: go_myobject type ref to cl_gos_manager.
data:
lo_container type ref to cl_gui_custom_container,
ls_object type borident.
create object go_myobject.
concatenate gt_item_main-bukrs gt_item_main-belnr gt_item_main-gjahr
                                             INTO ls_object-objkey .
ls_object-objtype = 'BKPF'.      " BOR-Objekttyp
ls_object-logsys = 'ITAIS3'.     " Log. System des ITA-Viewer
Aufruf Service
call method go_myobject->start_service_direct
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           is_object = ls_object.
       io_container = lo_container.
ENDFORM.                    " anlagenliste

Hi Raja,
the coding in my program look like this:
data:
ref_cust_cont   type ref to cl_gui_custom_container,
ref_gos_manager type ref to cl_gos_manager,
wa_object       type borident.
if ref_cust_cont is initial.
custom container
    CREATE OBJECT ref_cust_cont
    EXPORTING
    container_name = 'CUST_CONT'.
GOS-manager
    CREATE OBJECT ref_gos_manager.
endif.
wa_object-objkey = lv_key.   "1
wa_object-objtype = 'ZTEST'.
starting the service direct
    CALL METHOD ref_gos_manager->start_service_direct
      EXPORTING
      ip_service = 'VIEW_ATTA'
      is_object = wa_object
      io_container = ref_cust_cont
    EXCEPTIONS
      no_object        = 1
      object_invalid   = 2
      execution_failed = 3
      OTHERS           = 4
Now the attachment-list of the new object '2' (objectkey) should be shown... so the same procedure starts again:
wa_object-objkey = lv_key.   "2
wa_object-objtype = 'ZTEST'.
starting the service direct
    CALL METHOD ref_gos_manager->start_service_direct
      EXPORTING
      ip_service = 'VIEW_ATTA'
      is_object = wa_object
      io_container = ref_cust_cont
    EXCEPTIONS
      no_object        = 1
      object_invalid   = 2
      execution_failed = 3
      OTHERS           = 4
Now the ALV should show the attachment list of object "2" but it doesn´t. It also doesn´t help when i´m using the method PUBLICATION_CHANGED after the method-call START_SERVICE_DIRECT!
May be you have a code sample for me?!
Regards
chris

Generic Object Services (GOS) + ArchiveLink against IXOS.

Hi all,
I'm currently working on a project where I'm supposed to extend the Generic Object Services (GOS) Icon with a menu item for storing documents down to IXOS through ArchiveLink, and a functionality for retrieving them / attaching them to an email.
So far, I concluded that I need to create a class, whose superclass is CL_GOS_SERVICE, and at least override the EXECUTE() method with some functionality.
The ARCHIVOBJECT function group contains some (probably)
useful function modules - like ARCHIVOBJECT_CREATE_FILE and ARCHIVOBJECT_GET_BYTES / ARCHIVOBJECT_GET_TABLE.
My problem so far is that I don't see the "connection",
ARCHIVOBJECT_CREATE_FILE takes ARCHIV_ID, DOCUMENT_TYPE
and PATH as arguments (parameters), and returns ARCHIV_DOC_ID - an unique ID to the stored document
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regards,
Lars Wilhelmsen

Hi again,
Thanks for the answers, they were very helpful,
but the customer isn't happy with the "Store business Documents" and it's Drag n' drop interface.
I'm to develop a new GOS menu item, that will show
a normal Open File dialog, and a following popup
where the user can change the document title shown
in the Attachment list.
ARCHIVOBJECT_CREATE_FILE and ARCHIVOBJECT_GET_TABLE
along with ARCHIV_CONNECTION_INSERT should probably
cover the functionality I need.
I know both the BOR type ID and the object ID is
available to me in the Execute() method of the GOS menu handler I'm overriding, but for the ARCHIV_CONNECTION_INSERT, I'm supposed to supply an AR_OBJECT parameter (I know that this information is stored in the TOAOM table), but I have no clue where to get this information for the current object I'm trying to add an attachment for.
Regards,
Lars Wilhelmsen

Saving GOS attachment

hi,
Our client is using 4.6c system.
I want to download PO attachment with GOS functionality. I tried using FM BDS_GOS_CONNECTIONS_GET in 4.6c system. But this FM is not present in 4.6c System. Is there any other way of downloading PO attachment without using above Fm.
Thanks

Hi,
Please use the below code to get attachment from GOS for Pur Order .
w_bo_id = w_ebeln.
 lo_is_object_a-instid = w_bo_id.
 lo_is_object_a-typeid = ' '. "Please find the BOR for Por Order Using Trace
 lo_is_object_a-catid = 'BO'.
 wa_rel-sign = 'I'.
 wa_rel-option = 'EQ'.
 wa_rel-low = 'ATTA'.
 APPEND wa_rel TO t_rel.
 CALL METHOD cl_binary_relation=>read_links
 EXPORTING
 is_object = lo_is_object_a
 it_relation_options = t_rel
 IMPORTING
 et_links = t_links.
 LOOP AT t_links INTO wa_links WHERE typeid_b = 'MESSAGE'.
 CLEAR : w_doc_name,w_doc_type,t_content.
 MOVE wa_links-instid_b TO wa_document_id.
 CALL FUNCTION 'SO_DOCUMENT_READ_API1'
 EXPORTING
 document_id = wa_document_id
 TABLES
 object_header = t_header
 contents_hex = t_content
 EXCEPTIONS
 document_id_not_exist = 1
 operation_no_authorization = 2
 x_error = 3
 OTHERS = 4.
 IF sy-subrc <> 0.
 MESSAGE ID sy-msgid TYPE sy-msgty NUMBER sy-msgno
 WITH sy-msgv1 sy-msgv2 sy-msgv3 sy-msgv4.
 ENDIF.

Generic Object Service (GOS)

Can anyone tell me for what documents that the GOS is available.
Generally I need to know whether it is available for all logistics documents and whether other types if so what are the types.
Thanks

Hi,
The Generic Object Services offer functions that are available in various SAP applications which are bases on Business objects.
The generic object services can be used for ant/all/only objects of the Business Object Repository (BOR).
This link may be helpful - http://help.sap.com/saphelp_nw04/helpdata/en/c4/3fe63659241157e10000009b38f889/frameset.htm
Regards,
Anand Mandalika.

GOS: How to display attachment?

Hello,
I want to display the first attachment. I found the function GOS_ATTACHMENT_LIST_POPUP, but I haven't found a possibility to display an attachment directly. Does anybody know how to do this?
Please help.
Have a nice day. Bye.
Frank

This may not be the purist way of doing it, but hopefully it may help you along the way.
Jonathan
report zlocal_jc_sdn_gos_test.
tables:
srgbtbrel.   "Relationships in GOS Environment
parameters:
*"Defaults here are an FI doc with GOS Note visible in FB03
p_objkey                   like borident-objkey
                               default '100000120618312008',
p_objtyp                   like borident-objtype
                               default 'BKPF'.
start-of-selection.
perform display_attachment.
*&      Form display_attachment
form display_attachment.
data:
    l_objkey            type swo_typeid,
    lo_gos_service      type ref to cl_gos_document_service,
    ls_srgbtbrel        type srgbtbrel,
    lt_srgbtbrel        type srgbtbrel occurs 10.
*" Get a list of the links and choose one:
select *
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    from srgbtbrel
    where instid_a = p_objkey
    and   typeid_a = p_objtyp
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*" Exit if no attachments found
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    exit.
endif.
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sort lt_srgbtbrel by utctime. "put oldest top for this demo
read table lt_srgbtbrel into ls_srgbtbrel index 1.
l_objkey = ls_srgbtbrel-instid_b. "i.e. the Note's ID
create object lo_gos_service.
call method lo_gos_service->display_note
    exporting
      ip_note      = l_objkey
      ip_disp_html = 'X'.
*"Methods in cl_gos_document_service include:
*" DISPLAY_ATTACHMENT
*" DISPLAY_NOTE
*" DISPLAY_PERSONAL_NOTE
*" DISPLAY_URL
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How to redefine GOS toolbar function "SEND OBJECT WITH NOTE" for deliveries

Hello Abapers,
for inbound and outbound deliveries (tcodes VL01N, VL02N, VL03N, VL31N, VL32N, VL33N) I have to replace the GOS toolbar function SEND OBJECT WITH NOTE with a redefined function matching the following specifications:
- Title field needs a different content
- Text (note content) should be filled by default, maybe with standard text, but can be overwritten
- All attachments in the attachment list of the object should be included by default or be selectable thru an additional button
Also possible could be an addiitonal toolbar function SEND ATTACHMENTS WITH NOTE as a copy of SEND OBJECT WITH NOTE.
Although I checked the SDN forums for a matching solution, I couldn't find one in tons of GOS threads.
Perhaps someone had solved a similar problem to send obejct with notes from GOS toolbar with several of the object's attachments.
Maybe some GOS classes have to be redefined for that, but this should only be available for deliveries, not for the other BOR types.
I'm waiting for your ideas.
Best regards,
Klaus
Edited by: Klaus Babl on Feb 16, 2012 10:13 AM

No the list of steps done to solve the issue:
1. Copy of class CL_GOS_SRV_SEND_OBJECT to new class /SIE/IS_BSD_GOS_SRV_SEND_ATT.
2. SM30 for table SGOSATTR: New entry for new service ZSO_SENDATT for the new class.
3. Copy of methods ON_SERVICE_SUCCEEDED, CHECK_STATUS, CREATE_ROOT_ITEM and ON_LINK_CREATED from class CL_GOS_SRV_ATTACHMENT_LIST to the new class.
4. New code added to the top of method CHECK_STATUS to show the service for deliveries only:
IF is_lporb-typeid NE 'BUS2015'
AND is_lporb-typeid NE 'LIKP'.
    ep_status = mp_status_invisible.
    EXIT.
ENDIF.
5. Copy of function group SAPLSGOS_OUTBOX and function module SGOS_SEND_OBJECT_WITH_NOTE to own copies.
6. Before calling cl_bcs=>short_message there are several steps to do:
- CALL METHOD cl_binary_relation=>read_links
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- cl_document_bcs=>create_document for all those documents (we are using types ATTA, NOTE and URL)
- APPEND those created documents to the attachment table and pass it to i_attachments of cl_bcs=>short_message
Solved issue!
COMMENT: This SDN wiki document is outdated and doesn't work any more:
http://wiki.sdn.sap.com/wiki/display/Snippets/ABAP-SendingGOSattachmentstoanemailaddress
Best regards,
Klaus

How to Read/Update GOS URL

Good day Gurus,
I created a program to create URL in GOS. My scenarios are these.
1. Check the contract in RE80 if URL Title "Testing" is already attached. If not, create the URL. Please help how to check if such URL title is already attached.
2. If its already attached, I need to update the URL link. I've check FM SO_OBJECT_UPDATE but it needs the Folder ID and Object ID. How will I get these parameters?
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see the following example to Read URL form GOS
REPORT ZGOS_READ_URL.
tables:
srgbtbrel.   "Relationships in GOS Environment
parameters:
p_objkey                   like borident-objkey
                               default '0000101774',
p_objtyp                   like borident-objtype
                               default 'KNA1'.
start-of-selection.
perform display_attachment.
*&      Form display_attachment
form display_attachment.
data:
    l_objkey            type swo_typeid,
    lo_gos_service      type ref to cl_gos_document_service,
    ls_srgbtbrel        type srgbtbrel,
    lt_srgbtbrel        type srgbtbrel occurs 10.
*" Get a list of the links and choose one:
select *
    into corresponding fields of table lt_srgbtbrel
    from srgbtbrel
    where instid_a = p_objkey
    and   typeid_a = p_objtyp
*    and   reltype = 'URL'.
and   reltype = 'ATTA'.
*" Exit if no attachments found
if lines( lt_srgbtbrel ) is initial.
    exit.
endif.
*" Choose first one and set up the ident for the BOR
sort lt_srgbtbrel by utctime. "put oldest top for this demo
read table lt_srgbtbrel into ls_srgbtbrel index 1.
l_objkey = ls_srgbtbrel-instid_b. "i.e. the Note's ID
create object lo_gos_service.
* call method lo_gos_service->display_note
* call method lo_gos_service->DISPLAY_URL
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Doubt GOS

Hi all.
Do you have any idea about GOS ?
Class Eg:CL_GOS_SRV_ATTACHMENT_CREATE
TO be reward all helpfull answers.
regards.
Jay

Hi
see the doc
of this class super class
CL CL_GOS_SERVICE
Short Text
Publication for Generic Object Services
Functionality
CL_GOS_SERVICE is an abstract class from which all services are derived that are part of generic object services.
In order to add a separate service to the generic object services, you must encapsulate these as the method EXECUTE in a subclass of the class CL_GOS_SERVICE.
Redefinition of the method EXECUTE
You must redefine the instance method EXECUTE for your service. You can access the attribute GS_OBJECT, that contains the BOR reference of the published object, in the method. The method EXECUTE and all the methods or function modules called by it are not allowed to set a COMMIT WORK. Instead, the event COMMIT_REQUIRED must be triggered. If this is not possible, a function module must be called by RFC in the method so that so that a new roll area is opened.
Status query
The method CHECK_STATUS is called when the service is instantiated. The method checks whether the service for the published BOR object can be executed. The parameter EP_STATUS receives the value MP_STATUS_ACTIVE, MP_STATUS_INACTIVE or MP_STATUS_INVISIBLE. A status change at a later time can be made to the framework of the generic object services using the event SERVICE_CHANGED.
Event handler methods
If a response is required for the successful closing of a different service, the event handler method ON_SERVICE_SUCCEEDED must be redefined and the event handler for the event SERVICE_SUCCEDED of the other service must be registered.
If a service is canceled, the event handler method ON_SERVICE_CANCELED is called. References can be deleted and controls released in this method.
Relationships
Add class to Generic Object Services
You must also enter your class in the table SGOSATTR. Use the table view maintenance for this purpose (SM30). Here you must enter the class name in the field Name of service, and enter the attribute for the service (for example description and icon).
Support additional requirements
The services can implement one or more of the following interfaces:
IF_GOS_SERVICE_MULTIPLE
IF_GOS_SERVICE_TOOLS
IF_GOS_SERVICE_ON_CREATE
Further information
An overview of Generic Object Services can be found in the SAP Library under Basis Components --> Basis Services --> Business Workplace and Services --> Generic Business Tools for Application Developers --> Generic Object Services (BC-SRV-GBT).
Regards
Anji

Problems starting tcode from swo1-object via gos (so_sendobj)

Hi,
working with gos around some swo1-object, i got the problem to start a transaction which is called from an object method: the transaction starts but the wished details of that item do not appear as expected.
When I start the test environment within tcode SWO1, and at first, I create an instance from this object giving it the right key (for the wished item) then i succeed in starting the bespoken transaction from within that method showing me the details for that item.
In the last days, I have read and learned a lot about the possibilities and interdependences of the gos mechanism using many of the hints and advices which were given here in the forum in the past. But I'am not able to achieve the wished effect via gos (send object with note) from within our application.
My guess, we need to start an instance of the object before we can show details for the wished item. In the normal case, the application shows at the left windows with containers/trees for search filters and items and within the main window on the right the details for that item. Starting this transaction a popup-window appears (showing the standard filter) where you can give the wished item no.
As I remarked, starting all these things from within the swo1 environment everything is functioning as expected...
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Wish you all together a happy new year.
Kind regards
Christian

My freind ,
in the   Bussiness Objects migatration there is no select-options like
sending range of data or the multiple selections.
for this we need separate   loop structure   where in we can send the multiple   data and everytime it calls the BAPI Obect evertime individaully ,
if you want the you have to define one new   BOR object (Custom bapi)...then rignt one function module for   select-options and attach it to you method in the BAPI   .
So that   your BAPI calls in the SAP function Module   for range of data .
Reward points if it is usefull ....
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What's wrong with Boris 3D Text Generator.....

I've tried to use this tool but the clunky interface and 10 second delay while you open this up in it's own window drives me crazy. But I am trying again to use Boris 3D for subtitles.
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