GRC -IdM integration (HCM IdM GRC IdM)

Hi IdM & GRC Gurus,
We want to implement a scenario where IdM (7.1) gets user data from HCM, followed by Workflow and SoD analysis in GRC (5.3) and Finally IdM performing the Provisioning (HCM > IdM > GRC > IdM), however I donu2019t see any documentation for this exact scenario. If SAP's direction is for IdM being provisioning solution and not GRC (CUP), the above scenario should be implemented. SAP documentation "SAP IdM Compliant Provisioning using GRC Access Control Configuration Guide. PDF" is similar but here GRC (CUP) is doing the final provisioning.
I have following questions
1     Which Framework should be imported in IdM to implement IdM - GRC integration, where IdM gets user data from HCM, followed by Workflow and SoD analysis in GRC and Finally IdM performing the Provisioning (HCM > IdM > GRC > IdM)?
2     GRC Provisioning Framework (GRC 53 Provisioning Framework_Folder.mcc) that is available on SDN, is based on HCM to IdM followed by GRC conducting SoD analysis and provisioning. Can the same framework be used for a scenario where IdM does the provisioning in the last step (same as question 1)?
3     "If answer to question 2 is yes? What are the changes/customization required to GRC Provisioning Framework (GRC 53 Provisioning Framework_Folder.mcc)? As per the limitations (page 37) mentioned in the document SAP IdM Compliant Provisioning using GRC Access Control Configuration Guide. PDF, ""It is not possible to only carry out a check for Segregation of Duties, without having the
request provisioned to the GRC Access Control back-ends. It means that the Identity Center
cannot just ask if a certain entitlement assignment is valid.
If the request is approved, the accounts and role assignments will always be performed in
the GRC Access Control back-end systems."" If this is true, how can we impliment HCM > IdM > GRC > IdM (IdM doing provisioning in the end)?"
4     If GRC Provisioning Framework (GRC 53 Provisioning Framework_Folder.mcc) is implemented along with HCM framework (SAP Provisioning Framework_Folder.mcc) and HCM_Staging_Area_Identity store.mcc, which Identity Store should GRC Provisioning Framework be imported (HCM_Staging_Area OR SAP_Master)?
Regards,
Anurag

Hi Joel,
within the VDS you create a local user ('HR_USER') and you choose some password. Later while configuring the HCM system you use these credentials to define the connection from HCM to the VDS.
Kind regards
Frank

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