Guided procedures-help required

Hi,
I have deployed some updated content in guided procedures. (Deleted the entire ORGINAL content even from the deleted items folder).The problem is other processes have disappeared strangely(folder names are missing the content inside the folder is present) .
Although i did not make any changes in those folders, the folder names are not appearing strangely.
Does the problem lie with deployment of content through SDM(i deployed all .sda files in one go) or any other issue.
Do i need to roll back the changes?
Please suggest.
Regards,
Subodh

Hi David,
Assuming that they are actually blocks in a process (I do not see other possibility of actually handling two different processes instead of two blocks in a process, but I will confirm with the person who brought the issues to my notice), is it possible to specify exit condition for one block that also depends on the exit condition of second block? That means even if the exit condition of one block is met, can it wait for the second block's exit condition?
In BPM we have Fork step where I can specify parallel branches and design the process such that it runs through certain number of branches. Is anything available like this in GP? Can you please provide any documentation which explains the parallel block handling in GP? As I mentioned in my other response, I am familiar with BPM, but never used GP.
Thank you very much.

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hi all,
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TTAKEN NUMBER;
TPROFIT NUMBER;
TLOSS NUMBER;
BEGIN
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AND (TIMETAKEN )>( TIMEALLOWED ))
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(TIMETAKEN ) )
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i call this procedure in after paramenter function of report
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wht modification should i do in the following procedure that i fetch record on by one and then insert in the other table
Regards
Abhi

HI Manu,
thanks for your reply
well i just modified my procedure to my need
PROCEDURE calc IS
TALLOWHRS NUMBER;
TTAKENHRS NUMBER;
TTAKENMINS NUMBER;
TALLOWMINS NUMBER;
TCLOCKHRS NUMBER;
TCLOCKMINS NUMBER;
TALLOW NUMBER;
TTAKEN NUMBER;
TSAVED NUMBER;
TLOST NUMBER;
BTTAKEN NUMBER;
CURSOR Cur_Cursor IS SELECT C.TIMEALLOWEDHRS,C.TIMEALLOWEDMINS,C.TIMETAKENHRS,C.TIMETAKENMINS,A.TIMECLOCKEDHRS,A.TIMECLOCKEDMINS,B.TIMETAKEN
FROM PRTRINCH C,PRTRINCG A,PRTRINCE B;
BEGIN
     OPEN Cur_Cursor;
      FETCH Cur_Cursor INTO TALLOWHRS,TALLOWMINS,TTAKENHRS,TTAKENMINS,TCLOCKHRS,TCLOCKMINS,BTTAKEN;
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(TCLOCKHRS*60+TCLOCKMINS)) / 60)) || ':'|| TO_NUMBER ( MOD ((((TALLOWHRS*60+TALLOWMINS)/(TALLOWHRS*60+TALLOWMINS))*
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TTAKEN:=TO_CHAR( FLOOR (BTTAKEN / 60)) || ':'|| TO_CHAR ( MOD (BTTAKEN, 60), 'FM00');
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(TCLOCKHRS*60+TCLOCKMINS))) / 60)) || ':'
                        || TO_NUMBER ( MOD (((TCLOCKHRS*60+TCLOCKMINS)-(((TALLOWHRS*60+TALLOWMINS)/(TTAKENHRS*60+TTAKENMINS))*
(TCLOCKHRS*60+TCLOCKMINS))) , 60), 'FM00'),0);
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Hello Gurus,
We are in process of implementing Benefits and for which we are using Guided Procedures, want to have understanding of the process can you please provide the step by step documentation and an example process that will be of great help.
Appreciate your help.
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Kind Regards,
Pramod

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We are getting the following error when a user is trying to execute an Action in the Guided Procedures Process:
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PDF-Based Print Forms/SAP Interactive Forms by Adobe
http://help.sap.com/saphelp_nw04s/helpdata/en/c8/4adf7ba13c4ac1b4600d4df15f8b84/frameset.htm
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Architecture
http://help.sap.com/saphelp_nw04/helpdata/en/f2/21021b911f4c0cae11459a4ce0bc62/frameset.htm
http://www.nl4b.com/Adobe/Invitation_SAPBrussels_Q407.pdf
cheers!
gyanaraj
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I want to know whether for SAP's help is required for performing the self service of Performance Optimization.
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hi,
1) Is this service available to all the customer? (by all the customers I mean "Max Attention", "Enterprise Support" etc)
i answer this above is it, from mz above reply, have you checked
enterprise support customers can get five EGI sessions as free per year. please check
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here my reply above
because Guided procedure itself the proven methodlogy from SAP, the report provides the lots of suggestions against the SAP best practices.
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again, service report is the source, you have to review yourself, if you are in EGI, sap use that report for guiding. Please review
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