Hal-flash to watch DRM-protected content in firefox
Hi guys,
I'm facing a weird problem that I cannot find solution for.
I have followed wiki and installed hal-flash + udisks2 on my desktop PC since I wanted to watch some DRM-protected content on internet (person of interest to be precise). All worked great.
But then my wife, who also is running Arch on her laptop (samsung 900x series) wanted to watch the same content on it.
So I quickly ssh-ed to her laptop, installed exactly the same hal-flash and udisks2 + I also removed all the firefox cache - but no success, flash video that is playing nicely on my PC does not play on her laptop.
I checked all relevant software version (that is firefox, hal-flash, udisks2) - the same on both PC and laptop. To my simple understanding it should work on both computers...
I'm feeling a bit dumb because I told my wife using linux will be as easy as using windws and now it seems I cannot figure out something that seems to be a 'simple thing' from her point of view (obviously after reading wiki I know it's a bit more complex and in the same time interesting issue)...
So I humbly ask somebody to direct me what may be wrong here?
Last edited by Gregosky (2015-05-05 22:46:57)
Ok, so I installed pipelight and also I enabled flash - however flash is not appearing on the list of plugins. So I removed my flashplugin (the standard one I installed when setting up firefox) - it seems firefox does not recognise that there is a plugin installed... Trilby, should flash appear on about:plugins page?
--edit--
It seems browser should be closed when installing wine-silverlight. I uninstalled pipelight, closed the browser and installed again - now plugin appears however it's showing error:
[PIPELIGHT:LIN:unknown] attached to process.
[PIPELIGHT:LIN:unknown] checking environment variable PIPELIGHT_SILVERLIGHT5_1_CONFIG.
[PIPELIGHT:LIN:unknown] searching for config file pipelight-silverlight5.1.
[PIPELIGHT:LIN:unknown] trying to load config file from '/home/izulka/.config/pipelight-silverlight5.1'.
[PIPELIGHT:LIN:unknown] trying to load config file from '/etc/pipelight-silverlight5.1'.
[PIPELIGHT:LIN:unknown] trying to load config file from '/usr/share/pipelight/configs/pipelight-silverlight5.1'.
[PIPELIGHT:LIN:unknown] sandbox not found or not installed!
[PIPELIGHT:LIN:silverlight5.1] using wine prefix directory /home/izulka/.wine-pipelight.
[PIPELIGHT:LIN:silverlight5.1] checking plugin installation - this might take some time.
[install-dependency] wine-silverlight5.1-installer is already installed in '/home/izulka/.wine-pipelight'.
[install-dependency] wine-mpg2splt-installer is already installed in '/home/izulka/.wine-pipelight'.
fixme:winediag:start_process Wine Staging is a testing version containing experimental patches.
fixme:winediag:start_process Please report bugs at http://bugs.wine-staging.com (instead of winehq.org).
wine: cannot find L"C:\\windows\\system32\\winemenubuilder.exe"
err:wineboot:ProcessRunKeys Error running cmd L"C:\\windows\\system32\\winemenubuilder.exe -a -r" (2)
[PIPELIGHT:WIN:silverlight5.1] embedded mode is on.
[PIPELIGHT:WIN:silverlight5.1] windowless mode is off.
[PIPELIGHT:WIN:silverlight5.1] linux windowless mode is off.
[PIPELIGHT:WIN:silverlight5.1] force SetWindow is off.
[PIPELIGHT:WIN:silverlight5.1] window class hook is on.
[PIPELIGHT:WIN:silverlight5.1] strict draw ordering is off.
fixme:ole:RemUnknown_QueryInterface No interface for iid {00000019-0000-0000-c000-000000000046}
[PIPELIGHT:WIN:silverlight5.1] replaced API function CreateWindowExA.
[PIPELIGHT:WIN:silverlight5.1] replaced API function CreateWindowExW.
[PIPELIGHT:WIN:silverlight5.1] replaced API function TrackPopupMenuEx.
[PIPELIGHT:WIN:silverlight5.1] replaced API function TrackPopupMenu.
err:virtual:map_file_into_view failed to set 00000007 protection on file map, noexec filesystem?
[PIPELIGHT:WIN:silverlight5.1] pluginloader.c:371:initDLL(): could not load library 'npctrl.dll' (last error = 193).
[PIPELIGHT:WIN:silverlight5.1] pluginloader.c:786:main(): failed to initialize DLL.
[PIPELIGHT:LIN:silverlight5.1] common.c:168:receiveCommand(): unable to receive data.
[PIPELIGHT:LIN:silverlight5.1] basicplugin.c:128:attach(): error during the initialization of the wine process - aborting.
Last edited by Gregosky (2015-05-11 07:25:06)
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Seriously?
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Who cares if Replay Media Whatever gets the media. If that
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DON'T PUBLISH IT. It's not rocket science.
Again putting the emotion to the side. As stated earlier,
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http://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Laches_(equity)
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sue the company, but they do need to do more to address the issue
with the product than what is apparently being done, and in
reality, it may become a requirement that a suit is commenced,
depending on the outcome of prior efforts.
Anyway, no emotion here. To get emotional, I'll say that I am
pleased with the technologies Adobe has created, especially
Dreamweaver and Flash. The streaming server technologies in itself
is great. I just don't feel that the security technologies have any
weight right now with other technologies readily available to
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Please take care,
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Windows 64bit: C:\windows\syswow64\macromed\flash
ProtectedMode=0
If the mms.cfg file does not exist, create one using any standard text editor (e.g.. notepad)
Depending on your operating system, you might need to first save the mms.cfg file to a writable location (such as your documents or desktop folder) and then copy the file into the destination folder using Windows Explorer.
To re-enable Protected Mode, simply remove the line from the mms.cfg file.
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