Having some Space Designer panning issues.

Question

Hey all. I'm new to this board. I come with a bit of a problem. Hopefully, someone here can shed some light.
In learning how to use Logic, I was told to maximize my CPU resources by setting up as few instances of Space Designer (among other things) as possible. I was instructed to link two Aux Channel Strips, insert Space Designer (SD) and assign a Stereo Bus as input, and then Send whichever instruments to that Stereo Bus. I've up a few of these, using a different preset in each, depending on my need.
The problem is, when I send a mono instrument that is panned hard to one side, I get beautiful sounding reverberations, but the instrument heads more and more toward the center the more I Send to SD. Obviously, a little SD goes a long way, but there are instances where I would really like to control exactly how much gets panned left or right. I don't want all of my sound ending up in a murky, muddy soup in the center. Ideally I'd love for shared SD resource as I've described to be totally linked to the panning of the instrument. If panned hard left, then no SD at all on the right, and visa versa, and every step in between, all controlled by the panning
What am I doing wrong?
thnx, Rafiki

Answer 1

Rafik! wrote:
What am I doing wrong?
Your conception about the system verbs routing is wrong.
Let's have a look at the real world and haw the things are in the native acoustical surround. Imagine you are a listener sitting in the center of a big concert hall and the singer is singing from the left side of the stage. What you hear?
1. You will hear/feel that the singing is coming from the left side - this is the DRY path of the sound source. It is the faster one and it is direct, that's why the human ear determines where the signal is coming from.
2. There will be lots of WET signal reflections which go to different sides re-reflect ( depends on the hall architecture ) and as a whole they all will spread to the listener with a slight amount of latency.
In the DAW you can use different methods to manipulate the reverbs but it will be more effective if you use them as inserts and control the spread and pan using a Dir.Mixer plugin after reverb insert for example. You can set even to mono just to get some deepness and prevent any mud in the soundscape.
Finally you can add a bit little send of a system verb which give the listener a picture of some room ambience. You can also try to set the send to "Post-Pan"
though its main purpose is for headphone/stage monitoring most and special plugins side chain like Waves C1s/ch for example. Using with system verbs may cause anomaly. Note, some hardware mixers have one Mono Send/Out and two Returns/Stereo for example.
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