HDCAM shoot to SD PAL DVD...

Morning All
Its a six minute promo shot HDCAM 1080i50 and edited Uncompressed HD 8-bit. One of the deliverables is an SD PAL DVD. We normally send DVCAM masters out to a facilty to encode and author...
Two questions:
- Should I do the encode in-house this time and just send the .m2v and .ac3 files?
- If I go the tape route how do I maintain the most image quality? Do I get the Blackmagic to downres or FCP?
Thanks for your help...
Tall Jim

is sending them an HDCAM master not an option? failing that I'd send a DigiBeta dub using the HDCAM deck to do the downconvert

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