Heavy frustration in multisim regarding refdes

I'm growing very frustrated with the way multisim handles numbering the components. I've been working on a complete design (capture and CAD) for a while now and am using multisim and ultiboard simultaneously. The board is basically finished both in capture and CAD. Someone asks me, "could you also add these pull-up resistors?". When I do add these resistors (64 of them in total in a separate block) multisim decided to renumber all my components so that all my component placement and routing in CAD was completely wasted and has to be done all over again. Is it "Forward Annotate" that messes up all the reference designators when transfering to ultiboard or is it when I add new components??
Very thankful for any help!
/Peter Hygren

I checked that page and it seems that they direct me towards ni.com/ask for technical support. It doesn't matter, I am now able to reproduce the error every time and I do believe this is a problem that the EWB group needs to look at so here it is:
In the attached zip-file there is a folder that contains a couple of files. Extract the folder to someplace on your computer.
Open Overview.ms10 with multisim
Open hierarchical block X2 at the bottom (double click, edit hb/sc)
Note the refdes on the LT1990 IC (should be U49)
Go back to Overview.ms10
Move something just a tad so that the file has been altered.
Now press CTRL+Z to undo the previous action.
Take a look at the reference designator for the LT1990 IC again (it has now changed to U63)
The refdes changes WHENEVER I press CTRL+Z. You can also note that I've tried locking the refdes for all components (in tools=> rename/renumber components) but it still changes whenever 'undo' is pressed.
I can avoid the problem by never undoing anything. But working like that is kind of annoying since I keep pressing the combination without thinking...
Message Edited by Support on 02-25-2008 11:40 AM
/Peter Hygren

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