Help needed setting up access point to public network

Hi from a newbie,
Assuming they are suitable, I want to use one (or two) AP1232AG-E-K9 access points for Internet connection through a public wireless network (BTFON), where wire broadband is not an option. I've downloaded what I think is the correct manual for the APs and I'm now scratching my head as to where and how to start setting them up. I want to use these Cisco APs in the hope they will give me better wireless performance than I'm currently getting, which is frequently flakey.
I've tried to reset the APs to the factory default but there seem to be different ways of doing this depending on what you want and what you've got. I made up a console cable to access the console but there even appear to be different versions of this so I'm not sure if the cable I have is the correct one.
I have setup and used lower end wireless devices in the past but these Cisco units seem real complicated and I'm going to need help in getting them working.
Any assistance would be much appreciated.
Kind regards,
Glenn.

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Setting up access points for public access

Okay, here's the situation. I have a PowerMac G4/1.25GHz dual processor running Server X 10.3.9 with four Mac clients (a small law office). Up until recently, everyone had also been running (client) 10.3.9, but I started upgrading some of them to 10.4 (currently 10.4.5). When I did this, they started running into problems with Word sometimes giving a "network or file permission error" when attempting to save documents to the server. After weeks of posting questions to Word support and trying everything in the book that I could think of, I found Apple recently posted what appears to be the answer to this (article 302979, "Microsoft Office applications fail to save to a server volume." The problem? I have all four users logging into the same account on the server, and when one of them logs out, it zaps everything in a Microsoft-created temp folder on the server, including temp files created by open documents created by other clients. Sheesh.
I had everyone set to use the same account because they have no need of document security -- everyone should be able to get into everyone else's files on the server, period. So, because of this snafu, I've created separate accounts for each of the users. My problem now is that, if user "X" creates a file or folder on the server, user "Y" cannot modify it because it is created as read-only. Strangely, if someone modifies an existing file, it doesn't change the user rights at all -- not sure why.
I'll admit to being a bit of a novice with Server X but am familiar with parent/child folder permissions -- I think I've got everything set right, but I must obviously be missing something. Here's what I've got setup, and what I've tried. If anyone can point out how I've got this setup improperly, I really need to get this fixed... thanks.
I have a single sharepoint ("workfiles"). I used the "public" folder as an example, and set the owner to "root" and the group to "staff". Further, I set the owner, group and everyone privileges to "read & write". I've also tried setting the group to "admin". All the individual user accounts I've set are also setup as admin users. I've tried setting each users's primary group as "staff (20)" or "admin (80)". I've copied all these privileges to all enclosed items, which does reset everything to public access, but as soon as someone creates a new folder or file, that folder/file becomes private to that user (it shows up with the creator's username as "owner" (r&w), group as "admin (read-only), and others as "read-only" as well.
PS: If upgrading the server to Server X 10.4 would help, I'm sure I can arrange that.

In our law firm, the server (10.4.4), we have set access to read/write access so staff can open client files/folders, edit then and close, etc. That seems to be working okay. Before the tech worked on permissions, if someone created a letter another staff member could open it, but it was read-only.
The problem we are having is that if a file that is clicked on stationery pad and we want to edit it, it will not allow us to. For example, if we need to edit our letterhead that normally comes up as an untitled document, if I unclick the stationery pad box, it unclicks, but it still comes up as an untitled document. I even tried to unclick a stationery pad on a document that I created before the server upgrade and it wouldn't let me.
If I create a brand new document and put it on stationery pad, it comes up untitled as it should. If another user on another desktop wants to make changes, they unclick the stationery pad box, but when they open it, it comes up untitled and in checking get info, the stationery pad is selected.
The tech set it up as follows:
Share Points and All tabs:
General tab: box to share this item and its contents is clicked
Access tab: owner, group and everyone have read/write privileges
If select dial at bottom to propagate permissions, all boxes are checked, except for access control list, which is shaded.
I cannot drag/add anything to the control list and the pencil and the minus sign is shaded
Protocol tab: Both boxes, share item using AFP and Allow AFP guest users are clicked. But for better security in reading the article, this should be unchecked.
Also under the protocol tab: the inherit permission from parent radio dial is clicked, not the use standard POSIX behavior.
What are we missing?
Thanks, Cheryl

Some help needed setting up NAT in 2x Airport network

I'm wondering if anyone can give me some advice on how to get port forwarding to work on my network.
DSL comes into the house downstairs and from the DSL modem it goes right into an Airport Express. I am on the second floor though, and the Airport's signal isn't strong enough for my G5's antenna to pick up. That's why I have another Airport Express on the first floor, expanding the Airport network.
The two Airport Express units are in a "WDS".
I would like to run a home server, so I have to open up port 21 and forward it to my G5, which gets its internet from the 2nd Airport Express unit.
How do I do this? The Airport's have IP's in the 10.0.0.x range. The G5 is in the 192.168.2.x range because it also connects to a wired router. Do they both have to be in the same range?
Port Forwarding seems disabled on the Airports because I use WDS. I can check the Distribute IP checkbox in the Network tab, but then I get a warning it shouldn't be enabled with WDS on.
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Hi Henry,
I managed to get it working. I thought port fowarding was greyed out on both Airport units, but it only was on the relay one. Not on the main one. Also, I first accidently forwarded port 21 to the G5's wired IP address instead of its wireless (Airport) IP address.
The setup is exactly as you described (your 2nd paragraph). The wired router is only there to connect 4 PC's to the G5. They don't need internet (I don't want Windows to have internet), they just need just data transfer with the G5 (MIDI data and VNC control). It's on a different IP range than the Airport network.
One issue I am still experiencing is that when Airport is turned on on the G5, the router network (the 4 PC's) don't appear in Finder > Network. When I turn off Airport, the router network appears within a second. So there is a file sharing conflict or something there.
Thanks for your help,
Maarten

Setting up wireless Cisco Access Points independently and network layout

Hello,
I am technician in a school. I have been asked to upgrade wireless system in school. Currently I am using VDSL2 30Mbps line. I am using E4200 Router, which is providing internet services. The school has 3 floors. On one floor I have this router which is further attached with 16 port gigabit unmanageable switch. The same router is providing wireless service on the same floor using Class C ip address. From the switch I have extended a cable and took it on to another (second floor), where I have got one more gigabit switch. From that switch I have connected one router using different subnet and further i have attached two access points for the entire floor, which is working ok. From the same switch I have extended one more cable up to third floor where I have connected one more access point. So, 3 access points on three floors, 2 switches and two router. This is the current network layout.
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Second I want to ask, if these access points can work independent without WLAN controller. Or do i have to have WLAN controller.
As fiber is not up yet so, for the time being I have connected these access points with POE switch using Cat5E cable and then further connected the POE switch with normal gigabit switch, which is further conneted with router at this point.
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How do I use Airport Extreme to create wired access point on wireless network?

Bit of an odd situation. I just went from cable to DSL at home and the modem moved from right by my computer to upstairs.
Trouble is, there's no real easy way to get a cable from the modem upstairs to my X-box (sans wireless connector) downstairs.
I could buy the wireless adaptor for the X-Box, but I was hoping I wouldn't have to spend any more money.
I have my airport extreme, and I was hoping I could use it to create a wired access point on the network, recieving the signal from the wireless modem upstairs and allowing me to plug in the X-Box.
Is this possible? If so, how? I've been through the config panel about a dozen times, but can't figure out what combination to set up.
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Will it work if I use the express to create the network?
Yes, providing that you have an 802.11n version of the AirPort Express and the Express has been configured to "Allow this network to be extended".
Then, the AirPort Extreme can be configured to "extend" the Express network. When you do this, the AirPort Extreme will provide more wireless coverage and the LAN Ethernet ports are enabled, so you can connect an Ethernet device.
This will not be a "normal" Ethernet connection. It will only work as well as the wireless "hop" between the Express and Extreme allow.
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Help Needed Setting Up IMAP Relay?

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Currently, we have our mail setup through our isp via pop (they do not offer imap). All of our employees have set up several access points to the pop server (i.e. home, office, smart phone, etc.). However, the problem arises that as each device is maintaining its own mail, when accessing mail on each device, mail read on one device still shows as unread on the others. As well as, any mail sent from one device, does not exist on the others.
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I'd probably have a conversation with the mail ISP along the lines of "add IMAP, please" and that will either be followed by happiness, or by migrating to another mail vendor, or migrating to local mail services.
I've bucketed mail over (via imap), and it's not really a good solution; there are a number of wheels that need be kept spinning and by the time the dust settles (outages, glitches, the usual cruft), you might as well either re-host mail to to another mail ISP that offers imap (gmail, for instance), or simply run your own mail server.
Usual tools are imapsync and offlineimap, and those target (obviously) imap and not pop. (I haven't seen much that does a pop pull, but it's likely feasible.)
If you decide to host your own, you'll probably want to upgrade to something newer than the PPC gear, and you'll need to sort out your public forward and reverse DNS for your mail server, and ensure all that matches your MX record.

Help needed setting up print server

i got 2 printer:
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I have a Scale Out File Server cluster with a Client Access Point. Whenever i talk to the Client Access Point it uses the public nics.
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Hi JustusIV,
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Modify Network Settings for a Failover Cluster
http://technet.microsoft.com/en-us/library/cc725775.aspx
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I found the solution...I think.
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The ISP has told me that the quality of my connection should be "perfectly fine" for any access point with an RSSI value better than -75, but I know from experience that my connection quality is miserable (i.e. < 50Kbps download) for almost all of these, including those with RSSI values better than -75. There is at least one exception, however, which gives me on the order of 2Mbps download, which is "great" in this context.
I've tried using a more powerful USB antenna plugged into my MacBook Air (mid 2011), but as far as I can tell, it really doesn't make much difference. Neither does my location within the boat. The overriding factor seems to be which access point I happen to connect up to.
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I'm hoping that I can determine, through experimentation, which access point(s) provide(s) acceptable performance and then configure my Mac to limit my connection to those points through whatever mechanism I need to use (e.g. channel, MAC id, etc.).

Establishing a wireless connection with a client computer is left to the access point for various reasons. One reason that your Mac may not connect to the strongest access point is that it may have reached a limit of the number of clients it can serve, leaving it unable to accept a connection with another. The limit may not be very large.
Suppose that happens, and your Mac establishes a connection with a more distant access point having a weaker signal. Then, suppose a client drops off the network. Doesn't this mean your Mac will switch to the stronger access point? Not necessarily. The throughput delivered to and from your Mac would have to drop below a threshold specified in the AP for it to drop the client, leaving your Mac free to connect with another one. The reason for this is to prevent rapid switching from one AP to another in an area in which two signals are of approximately equal quality. If that were to occur the frequent and repetitive handshaking between the two devices would slow throughput to zero.
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since ur gonna change the ssid and there is a password...
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Sorry to intrude, I came across this thread while I was looking for some other information and thought that there needed to be a point of clearification to identify some major security vulnerabilities.
With the current config, Cable Modem->Wan port of Router A->Router B plugged into LAN port on Router A
1. Traffic from Router A would see all traffic sent from router B out to the internet, if I was able to sniff the traffic on router A then I would see everything that router B was passing to the internet...not good idea if Router A is public, (traffic would not be encrypted since this is a hard line pass to the cable modem).
2. Router A will always be able to see the interface of router B (have to have it this way to perform the passing of IP traffic from one router to the other.) This means that router B will be open for brute force login attempts and any other vulnerabilities that the router might carry, again since this is being accessed from a publicly accessible network it would be hard to stop from happening in todays world.
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Using Mac mini as an access point for home network

Hi
I'm looking for some help on using my mac mini as an access point on my home network.
I have a G5 tower which is wired in to my router and acts as a home server. It has all my itunes library, films, etc
I stream these to various machines in the house, one of which is a mac mini in our living room.
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Internet Sharing may not be providing an address via DHCP, It also may not be providing a subnet Mask that can get you to communicate with the other computers on your local Network.
Take a look at what IP addresses are being used by the various computers on the network. I would expect you have a Router that may be using 192.168.0.1 as its base "private" address, and issuing DHCP Addresses in that range and higher with a subnet mask of 255.255.255.0, meaning anything with the same three high octets can communicate freely without Router intervention.
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