High Profile H.264 FC6?

Hello
Vimeo recommends using 'High Profile' H.264, (instead of the normal drop down H.264), for HD. But there is no so-called 'High Profile' H.264 in FC6.
Are there other options?
If so, can someone please state them for me?
Thank you

Hello Ian
How are you?
Yes, I'm aware of the importance of the Data Rate. In fact, for HD, Vimeo recommends 10K to 20K.
https://vimeo.com/help/compression
Needless to say, this post ties into my other one regarding 'workarounds' with limited equipment; using only a Mac Mini 10.6, and ClipWrap to get AVCHD files converted to QT - Only to find out that FC6 does not have 'High Profile' H.264, which came out with FC7.
And with the extra burden of HUGH render times evident with older G5's, FC6 and these converted AVCHD files, its back to reality. If my friend picks up a nice used Mac Pro intell Desktop and de-activated FC7 on Ebay, he should be in the 'Pink' .
Nice to see you again Ian
Mike

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