How have people done Forte application to Forte applicationcommunicatio

I was wondering what architectures folks have been using to do Forte
application to Forte application integration on the client and at the server
level?
connected environments?
CORBA/IIOP?
Message Oriented Middleware?

Hi,
I have used MQSeries and CICS Client. They worked well, except that CICS Client
is for little applications... Tuxedo has also good reputation.
You should also consider a lower protocol like TCP/IP. I use it in synchrone and
asynchrone to support an application protocol with external connections. It
works very well. For instance, It can be an alternative to connected
environments, even for Forte Partitions (for example : you need to connect
several thousands of Forte clients without having to maintain your central
environment).
For asynchrone communcation, and low cost and equipment (external clients, B to
B, etc...) you can also use SMTP with external connections. If you use MIME base
64, you can also transfer serialized objects for instance. Then you can use SMTP
like VMS Mailbox (in old times). Be aware, of course, that you will not have any
delivery warranty on your messages, so you should take care about this on your
protocol.
Hope this helps,
Daniel Nguyen
Freelance Forte Consultant
Edward.CarmodyLibertyMutual.com a écrit:
I was wondering what architectures folks have been using to do Forte
application to Forte application integration on the client and at the server
level?
connected environments?
CORBA/IIOP?
Message Oriented Middleware?
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    KAD/Denmark
    -----Original Message-----
    From: Haben, Dirk <[email protected]>
    To: 'Soapbox Forte Users' <[email protected]>
    Date: 15. januar 1999 09:41
    Subject: Running the same (Forte) application multiple times - for different business clients.
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    Hi
    We had the same problem - how to deploy a number of identical applications, using each their own db.
    (for training).
    The solution we used is to wrap the entire application into different applications by using a very small
    module called KURSUS01, KURSUS02 etc, that did nothing but call the start procedure of the main app.
    Then in the dbsession connect, we made a call appname to get the application name, and appended the
    first 8 chars to the dbname. Thus our dbnames now points to logicals name: rdbdataKURSUS01, rdbdataKURSUS02 etc.
    All this allows us to deploy the identical apps in the same env, or change one version, and run both the old
    and new program on the same pc and server at the same time (eg. KURSUS01 and KURSUS02).
    I also think this is a kludge - but it works nicely!
    Jens Chr
    KAD/Denmark
    -----Original Message-----
    From: Haben, Dirk <[email protected]>
    To: 'Soapbox Forte Users' <[email protected]>
    Date: 15. januar 1999 09:41
    Subject: Running the same (Forte) application multiple times - for different business clients.
    Hi All
    We have a number of different business clients all willing to use our
    application.
    The (forte) application is to run on our machines etc for these (business)
    clients.
    All (business) clients will have their data kept in separate Oracle DBs
    (instance).
    The problem now is that the entire (forte) application is written using
    DBSessions.
    Now, depending on what business client needs to be serviced (so to speak) we
    need to attach to the right DB - or use the "right" SO.
    The two options we can think of are:
    Option1:
    Programatic change to somehow "know" what (business) client (DB) I'm talking
    about and then use the right DB.
    Pro:
    Only one forte environment to maintain
    Can run multiple (business) clients on same PC at the same time
    Con:
    Requires many program changes
    bending O-O rules(?)
    can't dynamically name SOs so can it be done at all? (ResourceMGRs maybe?)
    Option2:
    Use separate environments! One for each business client.
    Pro:
    More defined separation of app and data,
    SLA-easy
    Con:
    Maintain "n" number of environments
    Can only run the application for one environment (business client) at a time
    on one PC - Big Negative here!
    Not knowing any feasible solution to option 1 (without much code changes and
    developer moaning) I would go for option two; as I have already worked on
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    I would appreciate any comments from anyone who has solved this problem.
    How, Why Pro Con etc.
    TIA,
    Dirk Haben
    Perth, WA
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  • Re: How can I handle disconnected user in Forte ?

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    Kelvin
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    I have follow your suggestion to read the persisent Q manager. But I still
    don't know how to start. What is the pitfall to implement persisent Q
    manager?
    By the way, if I want to keep the data in synch. Is it simply to have
    persisent Q manager running at background. Everytime database object
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