How to accout unplanned depreciation for group assets

Friends,
Unplanned depreciation is accounted for group assets few years ago.This is for special depreciation areas.
Now i would like to reverse this amount as write up unpalnned depreciation, but system is throwing eror message that: This function is not possible for group assets.
OR
The issue what we are facing is special dep areas has one cent as -ve acquisition due to which we are unable to deactivate the asset. This one cent was accounted as unplanned dep few years ago. How do we make the APC as zero when it has -ve APC in special dep areas.
pl, suggest how to go about this.
Thank
NNS

Hi,
This is not possible in the standard and this is not a from SAP intended and provided solution. Therefore I ask you to be really careful and test it bevore on a test system. (and perhaps to discuss this with your SAP consultant)
The workaround to remove the group asset from table ANLB-ANLGR from the asset could be done by creating your own program.
Regards Bernhard

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