How to test to see if your gpu is malfunctioning

I'm seeing an issue with my macbook pro 2011 running Yosemite which seems like a GPU malfunction (and apparently a common issue with this laptop). Sometimes images are not loading correctly or not at all when searching the web. Also when I open Facetime I sometimes can see image banding. I ran a Hardware Test and it did not come up with anything. Is there anything else I can do to test this out?

That value appears to be normal, does this issue happen most of the time or just at random? You could try backing up your data, performing a clean installation of OS X, and see if the issue persists and if it does then what I would recommend is that you try to capture a video of this happening and then take your computer to an Apple store or an Apple Authorized Service Provider, as you've already guessed you're likely looking at some sort of failure of the GPU on your logic board (which unfortunately appears to be common with 2011 MacBook Pro's).
Best of luck and have a great day.

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Modification History
By When TAR Description
CREATE OR REPLACE FUNCTION FETCH_ORDER_PRODUCT_DATA(orderNumber IN VARCHAR2, customerNumber IN VARCHAR2,
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How to test cloned VI file from Test-Stand

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I am having VI file which is having four controls and four indicators. I am just connecting one control with one indicator like one - one mapping. I have created connector pane for this. Say save this file as dummy1.vi.
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Hey NagRaj,
The reason you see the clones is because your VI is reentrant. You can change that in the VI Properties in the Execution section. Also, you may want to read more about that in the LabVIEW help to understand it better.
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If you want two steps where one step calls test1.vi and the other calls dummy1.vi then you have to call them seperately. They can't be tested in the same step this way.
If this is confusing you can always post your simple example (seq and vis) and I could look and see how to better assist you.
Regards,
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How to Test AIR 1.5

Sorry if this seems slightly off center, but I blame Adobe, not myself. Trying to determine the true status and positioning of AIR amongst the various Flex forums and projects for an outsider is practically impossible. So, I will be brief. In September Mr. Chambers sent opened the flow by telling us that we could find FP10 integrated with Flex SDK in something you call 1.5 or Cosmo, or both. He was properly circumspect, so I didn't rush into it -- there was not even an ADL binary when I checked. Now it is November, the Trunk is at 4005, and ostensibly, everything we need to start trying to take advantage of FP support of 3D operations is out there. But where? Where do we get a version of AIR 1.5 that can be installed on a target desktop, so that we can try to run the ADT test cycle?
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<DIV>I am sure you are right about an AIR application being able to use Loader and SWFLoader. I hope I have more or less figured out the right way to do that. But, I guess my point is that none of the documentation I have been able to find anywhere would answer the question about what to do with the framework and/or rpc files. What, as far as you understand it, is the correct way to manage the use of the Aface=Arial size=2>dobe swz files in an AIR application?</DIV> <BLOCKQUOTE style="PADDING-RIGHT: 0px; PADDING-LEFT: 5px; MARGIN-LEFT: 5px; BORDER-LEFT: #000000 2px solid; MARGIN-RIGHT: 0px"> <DIV style="FONT: 10pt arial">----- Original Message ----- </DIV> <DIV style="BACKGROUND: #e4e4e4; FONT: 10pt arial; font-color: black">From: <A [email protected] href="mailto:[email protected]">Josh McDonald</A> </DIV> <DIV style="FONT: 10pt arial">To: <A [email protected] href="mailto:[email protected]">[email protected]</A> </DIV> <DIV style="FONT: 10pt arial">Sent: Monday, November 03, 2008 11:01 PM</DIV> <DIV style="FONT: 10pt arial">Subject: Re: How to Test AIR 1.5</DIV> <DIV> </DIV>A new message was posted by Josh McDonald in Developers -- How to Test AIR 1.5 I'm sure there's nothing stopping you from loading SWFs and SWZs and SWCs and loading them in AIR? Just treat them as normal files, and use whatever you please to push out updates etc? -Josh On Tue, Nov 4, 2008 at 4:53 PM, Terry Corbet <<A href="mailto:[email protected]">[email protected]</A>> wrote: <BLOCKQUOTE class=gmail_quote style="PADDING-LEFT: 1ex; MARGIN: 0pt 0pt 0pt 0.8ex; BORDER-LEFT: rgb(204,204,204) 1px solid">A new message was posted by Terry Corbet in Developers -- How to Test AIR 1.5 01. Thanks, I will continue testing with ADL and hopefully be able to move up to a web-base, remote installation/update scenario in a couple of weeks. 02. I'm sorry you feel that my failure to accept what may be 'intuitively obvious to you' -- that I can design and test a 3D front end to FMS that works the same in a native window as in a browser window -- indicates any lack of faith in what will be delivered. So far, I have found subtle, important differences, and I am sure there will be others that will just have to be patiently tested before I get it right. 03. So, I'm glad you asked about swz in an AIR environment because that is a whole topic for which I have not been able to find any discussion on any of the many fine forums you have. I understand product marketing and product development, but I can't say that I ever managed those activities in the environment you have in which several large projects co-exist with lingering dependencies and even 'cultures' as diverse as you have with the various acquisitions that come together in the suite of products you have today. So, I will simply state that I think no one seems to have recognized that your paradigm for 'desktop' versus 'web-based' software -- the essential distinction which seems to describe Adobe's description of an AIR versus a Flex application -- does not always hold. I understand the general dichotomy, but it does not hold for my user base. You have lots of design papers and lots of software devoted to 'reducing the burden' of ever-growing executables in the Flex framework by caching of your or our rsls. That's a good idea. Why do you think it is not just as good an idea for an AIR application? Probably because you think that an AIR application will either be shipped on a CD, or sent over the Internet, but relatively infrequently, so who cares if you have to ship out 10MBs or 2MBs? My user cares. My user will get frequent updates to an ever-growing body of software called an application, and he will get them over those same slow bandwidth network links that the Flex user sees. What's "good for the goose is good for the gander". There is simply no reason not to architect the library of code that we use to cobble together the application and use the same intelligent caching mechanism in both environments. I looked for a month for a white paper or discussion of how to 'modularize' an AIR app but all that you wanted to publish were white papers on how to 'modularize' a Flex app. I'm sure that you guys have a bunch of object diagrams and product architecture blueprints that you have memorized -- but that is not what we see 'outside the black box'. What we see is a confusing distinction between the AIR efforts and the Flex efforts although the code base and efforts are substantially the same. And if that is true from an internals point of view, put on your end-user hat and look at how we view a AIR/Flex app -- it is all one. So, I develop the worlds greatest Juke Box and get it all going in Flex, then I move that into one Tab on one Screen in the AIR 'shell'. Then some guys go off and mostly use AIR-unique code to add a Tab that allows Drag and Drop creation of Slide Shows accompanied by voice overs, and another set of my guys go off to add the 'Sudoku' module in just plain old Flex. At some point in time in some ant task, we've got 10MB of code and X MBs of that is in one of our present [or future] swz files. Where is the distinction that says I should just ask my users to download the whole shooting match, when what he really wants to do is just download whatever updated or new application modules [including any upgrades to your frameworks] when required. So, it took some time, but today, my application is compiled with dynamic linking to the framework.swz, and when the user launches his AIR application on the desktop, the Flash Player, embedded in the AIR environment, is smart enough to find that it already has the necessary framework code and does not need to go back to the network to get it refreshed. Actually, since I could never figure out how to use Module and ModuleManager, the method for solving the framework caching problem ended up just being an extension of what I developed for version management 'with continuous update' of my own swf files. So, when the AIR shell starts up, it needs to test to see whether there is any updating to be done, or whether it already has locally available the 'latest and greatest' and that works the same for MyCute3DWizBang.swf or framework_3.1.0.2710.swz or framework_4.0.0.3988.swf. If you take the point of view that a 'desktop application' doesn't need to do anything special to solve the problem of 'large file downloads', you end up thinking that there is no reason for an AIR application to take advantage of the frameworked cache when, in fact, almost all of that code is needed whether the execution thread starts in a 'WindowApplication' or just a plain old 'Application'. At least thats the cockamaymee point of view that I came to in the absence of any 'best practice' discussion of these key topics -- so far, it seems to be working pretty well, but as you can guess, testing across a network to a remote host that may or may not have the right version of AIR, or the right version of framework, or the right version of MyCute3DWizBang is really more important than just testing against ADL. ----- Original Message ----- From: "Matt Chotin" <<A href="mailto:[email protected]" target=_blank>[email protected]</A>> To: <<A href="mailto:[email protected]" target=_blank>[email protected]</A>> Sent: Monday, November 03, 2008 8:39 PM Subject: Re: How to Test AIR 1.5 <BLOCKQUOTE class=gmail_quote style="PADDING-LEFT: 1ex; MARGIN: 0pt 0pt 0pt 0.8ex; BORDER-LEFT: rgb(204,204,204) 1px solid">A new message was posted by Matt Chotin in Developers -- How to Test AIR 1.5 The badge install doesn't work with debug, you can only use adl.exe right now. But this should show how the whole system would work and really allow you to evaluate. You know how the AIR install works with Air 1.1 (if not, use Flex 3.1 to target 1.1), I don't think seeing it with AIR 1.5 is critical to evaluate the features of the runtime at this point. Air and the Flash Player are runtimes, and we've made it clear that AIR 1.5 would include FP10 features. So when we say Flex will enable FP10, it should be obvious that when AIR 1.5 comes out Flex will support it in the same way. I don't really understand what you're doing with the SWZ and AIR, there's no real need to use a cached framework when the whole app is going to be installed. In any case, Air 1.5 should be out in 2 weeks hopefully so you'll be set then. Matt On 11/3/08 8:07 PM, "Terry Corbet" <<A href="mailto:[email protected]" target=_blank>[email protected]</A>> wrote: A new message was posted by Terry Corbet in Developers -- How to Test AIR 1.5 Thanks for the quick turnaround. Pardon my ignorance, but exactly what .exe file will install Air 1.5 on a system? I don't find it anywhere. I guess I can try to tear the ADL source apart to see how it mimics that behavior, but that is, at best, just a local test. I think testing the whole Badge install sequence is essential, and would like to give it a try. The longer we put this off, the longer we all just sit here trying to decide whether to stay with Papervision, Away, Sandy, or to use the graphics support in the Player. I am busy making the dynamic link to the framework.swz work for Flex modules running under an AIR shell, and I doubt that I am alone. There must be many of us who really see no distinction between AIR and Flex -- they just provide us two different ways to slice a problem, that's why it is so disconcerting to try to follow the threads on rapid Flex advancement with FP 10, but almost nothing pertaining the doing the very same things with the AIR toolkit. I hope you can tell me where to get the standalone AIR 1.5 installer that will me keep making progress with the debugging output reasonably well handled by Allesandros' FireFox tracer. Many thanks. ----- Original Message ----- From: "Matt Chotin" <<A href="mailto:[email protected]" target=_blank>[email protected]</A>> To: <<A href="mailto:[email protected]" target=_blank>[email protected]</A>> Sent: Monday, November 03, 2008 7:55 PM Subject: Re: How to Test AIR 1.5 <BLOCKQUOTE class=gmail_quote style="PADDING-LEFT: 1ex; MARGIN: 0pt 0pt 0pt 0.8ex; BORDER-LEFT: rgb(204,204,204) 1px solid">A new message was posted by Matt Chotin in Developers -- How to Test AIR 1.5 Hi, We're not doing a public beta of the release runtime for AIR 1.5. You can use the debug runtimes that are part of the Flex nightly builds though (check the Flex 3 nightlies) to validate that AIR 1.5 will be right for you though. Matt On 11/3/08 7:38 PM, "Terry Corbet" <<A href="mailto:[email protected]" target=_blank>[email protected]</A>> wrote: A new discussion was started by Terry Corbet in Developers -- How to Test AIR 1.5 Sorry if this seems slightly off center, but I blame Adobe, not myself. Trying to determine the true status and positioning of AIR amongst the various Flex forums and projects for an outsider is practically impossible. So, I will be brief. In September Mr. Chambers sent opened the flow by telling us that we could find FP10 integrated with Flex SDK in something you call 1.5 or Cosmo, or both. He was properly circumspect, so I didn't rush into it -- there was not even an ADL binary when I checked. Now it is November, the Trunk is at 4005, and ostensibly, everything we need to start trying to take advantage of FP support of 3D operations is out there. But where? Where do we get a version of AIR 1.5 that can be installed on a target desktop, so that we can try to run the ADT test cycle? 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