HP Image Edit commandeers iPhoto editing?
Since I installed HP's software for use with a Scanjet 4370 scanner, HP's "Image Edit" takes over from iPhoto whenever I try to edit an image. It does this to photos that have been in the library for months, not just images imported via the scanner.
I can't find any way to turn this seizure off, and I can't use the editing functions of iPhoto. Whichever image I open, HP's software commandeers the editing process.
This is nuts.
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Welcome to the Apple Discussions. Locate of of those offending files in iPhoto's Library/Originals folder. Then type Command-I to bring up the Info window. There select Preview as the default application and click on the Apply to all... button. See if that won't do it.
Also in iPhoto's General preferences window make sure Edit photo: is set to :in main window".
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I need your help with a decision to use iPhoto. I have been a PC user since the mid 1980’s and more recently have used ACDSee to manage my photo images and Photoshop to edit them. I have used ProShow Gold to create slideshows. I am comfortable with my own folder and file naming conventions. I currently have over 23,000 images of which around 60% are scans going back 75 years. Since I keep a copy of the originals, the storage requirements for over 46,000 images is huge. 180GB plus.
I now have a Macbook Pro and will add an iMac when the new models arrive. For my photos, I want to stay with Photoshop which also gives me the Bridge. The only obvious reason to use iPhoto is to take advantage of Faces and the link to iMovie to make slideshows. What am I missing and is using iPhoto worth the effort?
If I choose to use iPhoto, I am not certain whether I need to load the originals and the edited versions. I suspect that just the latter is sufficient. If I set PhotoShop as my external editor, I presume that iPhoto will keep track of all changes moving forward. However, over 23,000 images in iPhoto makes me twitchy and they are appear hidden within iPhoto. In the past, I have experienced syncing problems with, and database errors in, large databases. If I break up the images into a number of projects, I loose the value of Faces reaching back over time.
Some guidance and insight would be appreciated. I have a number of Faces questions which I will save for later.Bridge and Photoshop is a common file-based management system. (Not sure why you'd have used ACDSEE as well as Bridge.) In any event, it's on the way out. You won't be using it in 5 years time.
Up to this the lack of processing power on your computer left no choice but to organise this way. But file based organisation is as sensible as organising a Shoe Warehouse based on the colour of the boxes. It's also ultimately data-destructive.
Modern systems are Database driven. Files are managed, Images imported, virtual versions, lossless processing and unlimited editing are the way forward.
For a Photographer Photoshop is overkill. It's an enormously powerful app, a staple of the Graphic Designers' trade. A Photographer uses maybe 15% to 20% of its capability.
Apps like iPhoto, Lightroom, Aperture are the way forward - for photographers. There's the 20% of Photoshop that shooters actually use, coupled with management and lossless processing. Pop over to the Aperture or Lightroom forums (on the Adobe site) and one comment shows up over and over again... "Since I started using Aperture/ Lightroom I hardly ever use Photoshop any more..." and if there is a job that these apps can do, then the (much) cheaper Elements will do it.
The change is not easy though, especially if you have a long-standing and well thought out filing system of your own. The first thing I would strongly advise is that you experiment before making any decisions. So I would create a Library, import 300 or 400 shots and play. You might as well do this in iPhoto to begin with - though if you’re a serious hobbyist or a Pro then you'll find yourself looking further afield pretty soon. iPhoto is good for the family snapper, taking shots at birthdays and sharing them with friends and family.
Next: If you're going to successfully use these apps you need to make a leap: Your files are not your Photos.
The illustration I use is as follows: In my iTunes Library I have a file called 'Let_it_Be_The_Beatles.mp3'. So what is that, exactly? It's not the song. The Beatles never wrote an mp3. They wrote a tune and lyrics. They recorded it and a copy of that recording is stored in the mp3 file. So the file is just a container for the recording. That container is designed in a specific way attuned to the characteristics and requirements of the data. Hence, mp3.
Similarly, that Jpeg is not your photo, it's a container designed to hold that kind of data. iPhoto is all about the data and not about the container. So, regardless of where you choose to store the file, iPhoto will manage the photo, edit the photo, add metadata to the Photo but never touch the file. If you choose to export - unless you specifically choose to export the original - iPhoto will export the Photo into a new container - a new file containing the photo.
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These apps replace the Finder (File Browser) for managing your Photos. They become the Go-To app for anything to do with your photos. They replace Bridge too as they become a front-end for Photoshop.
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Please advise. GlenysThis may be of help to you:
Using Photoshop or Photoshop Elements as Your Editor of Choice in iPhoto.
1 - select Photoshop or Photoshop Elememts as your editor of choice in iPhoto's General Preference Section's under the "Edit photo:" menu.
2 - double click on the thumbnail in iPhoto to open it in Photoshop. When you're finished editing click on the Save button. If you immediately get the JPEG Options window make your selection (Baseline standard seems to be the most compatible jpeg format) and click on the OK button. Your done.
3 - however, if you get the navigation window
that indicates that PS wants to save it as a PS formatted file. You'll need to either select JPEG from the menu and save (top image) or click on the desktop in the Navigation window (bottom image) and save it to the desktop for importing as a new photo.
This method will let iPhoto know that the photo has been editied and will update the thumbnail file to reflect the edit..
NOTE: With Photoshop Elements the Saving File preferences should be configured as shown:
I also suggest the Maximize PSD File Compatabilty be set to Always. In PSE’s General preference pane set the Color Picker to Apple as shown:
Note: to switch between iPhoto and PS or PSE as the editor of choice Control (right)-click on the thumbnail and select either Edit in iPhoto or Edit in External Editor from the contextual menu. If you use iPhoto to edit more than PSE re-select iPhoto in the iPhoto General preference pane. Then iPhoto will be the default editor and you can use the contextual menu to select PSE for your editor when desired.
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Thanks. So it is probably worth upgrading to Aperture?
And you say that because? While Aperture has more features and more capabilities than iPhoto - especially in working with RAW - this is not one - depending on what yo do with previews in Aperture it may be even more difficult to use the edited photos incorrectly - iPhoto is simple - just correctly access the edited photo as TD suggested
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I need help on importing iPhoto libraries.
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I have rebooted the Mac and repaired permissions but that didn't help.
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MikeHello Leonie,
You were right on - many thanks! I thought I was facing having to start over again.
I have found Apple's Aperture User's Guide very useful but nowhere in its 907 pages have I found your instructions described or "iPhoto Converted" defined.
It works as you described and I have some comments: (1) After the resetting all adjustments in Aperture the new version continues to have these same keyword tags as before the reset. The adjustment badge is gone and the version number is appended to the image name. (2) I also used "New Version from Master" on some iPhoto edited photos. This creates a new version; however, all the adjustments, keywords and badges were deleted, but the version number is appended to the name. (3) I tried "Show Master Image". This apparently only works in Split View & Viewer (dimmed out in Browser). When I do this the adjustments are apparently not changed except for crops which are removed (this seems odd). Keywords and badges are not changed. There is no version number, of course, and the image is identified as a master image. (4) I am curious about why using Aperture's iPhoto Browser to import photos results in two photos, the iPhoto original and the iPhoto edited. They have the appropriate iPhoto Edited or iPhoto Original tags; however, except for rotation and cropping the iPhoto adjustments appear to have been reset. The edited ones do not have an adjustment badge, even though it was adjusted in iPhoto. All the images have a keyword badge and Aperture has added a keyword which it the title of the iPhoto album or event the photo came from. They all have a Master Image label at the top. I duplicated one of the iPhoto edited images. The duplicate displayed a Master Image label and Reset All Adjustment was dimmed.
I would appreciate your observations on these comments.
Aperture is an impressive piece of software and thanks to your help I think I am finally ready to start using it!
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I am able to click on a pic in iphoto to edit it and opens automatically in photoshop CS6. However when I am done editing and save I can not save back into Iphoto. Can any one help wiht this?
Thanks Terence. What a relief. I still don't understand what the book I read was talking about then. Here's a quote from the section I was referring to in "iPhoto 08: The Missing Manual" book, p 91 (ISBN: 0596-516185):
"Note, however, that the instant you edit a TIFF-format photo (Chapter 7), iPhoto converts it into JPEG.
That's fine if you plan to order prints or a photo book (Chapter 11) from iPhoto, since JPEG files are required for those purposes. But if you took that once-in-a-lifetime, priceless shot as a TIFF file, don't do any editing in iPhoto-don't even rotate it- if you hope to maintain its perfect, pristine quality."
After my test results, I thought maybe this was something that had changed from iPhoto 08 to iPhoto 09, so I went to the bookstore yesterday and checked the same book for iPhoto 09, and there it was, the same quote! (on a different page, of course).
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How to edit external iPhoto Library pictures with an external editor?
That's my question.
I have my iPhoto Library on an external HD and I want to modify my pics with PSE 11. I've set my iPhoto prefs to do this but it just doesn't work. When I click on "edit with an externale editor" PSE 11 opens but doesn't show the picture, why is that?The file you want to select is in the Adobe Photoshop Elements 10/Suport Files folder:
It should be the same for the earlier version of PSE as I recall.
Using Photoshop or Photoshop Elements as Your Editor of Choice in iPhoto.
1 - select Photoshop or Photoshop Elememts as your editor of choice in iPhoto's General Preference Section's under the "Edit photo:" menu.
2 - double click on the thumbnail in iPhoto to open it in Photoshop. When you're finished editing click on the Save button. If you immediately get the JPEG Options window make your selection (Baseline standard seems to be the most compatible jpeg format) and click on the OK button. Your done.
3 - however, if you get the navigation window
that indicates that PS wants to save it as a PS formatted file. You'll need to either select JPEG from the menu and save (top image) or click on the desktop in the Navigation window (bottom image) and save it to the desktop for importing as a new photo.
This method will let iPhoto know that the photo has been editied and will update the thumbnail file to reflect the edit..
NOTE: With Photoshop Elements the Saving File preferences should be configured as shown:
I also suggest the Maximize PSD File Compatabilty be set to Always. In PSE’s General preference pane set the Color Picker to Apple as shown:
Note: to switch between iPhoto and PS or PSE as the editor of choice Control (right)-click on the thumbnail and select either Edit in iPhoto or Edit in External Editor from the contextual menu. If you use iPhoto to edit more than PSE re-select iPhoto in the iPhoto General preference pane. Then iPhoto will be the default editor and you can use the contextual menu to select PSE for your editor when desired.
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Pictures edited in iPhoto look different in other applications
I'm running iLife '08 on my new iMac with Leopard 10.5.2
In iPhoto '08 (updated to 7.1.3) I do the following:
1) Import a picture to the library and double click it to zoom in.
2) This shows lots of imperfections, so I click on Edit and touch up the picture, then click done.
3) The next time I double click the picture to zoom in, the imperfections are still there, but if I click on edit the changes I applied at step 2 become visible.
4) If I export the photo and view in, say Preview, or choose send to iDVD, the resulting image has a lot more imperfections than the image shown in edit mode in iPhoto.
Why do my photos look so much better when viewed in iPhoto edit mode than when viewed in iDVD or Preview?Hi,
thanks for responding. I tried both of your suggestions, but no change unfortunately.
If you look at the two photos uploaded here (captured via Grab), the first shows the picture post-editing (i.e. from iPhoto whilst not in edit mode, or from another app such as Preview or iDVD). The second shows the photo as it displays whilst in iPhoto's edit mode. Am I doing something wrong?
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Major screen/graphics distortion while editing in iPhoto. Any ideas?
Hi there,
I have a 13" MacBook Pro purchased in late 2011. We bought the computer specifically for photo editing, as I have a DSLR camera. The issues with iPhoto started almost immediately after the computer was purchased. Here's what happens - I'll be editing in iPhoto (usually within the "adjust tab", not quick fixes). After a few minutes, iPhoto starts seriously dragging, I get the wheel, then I start getting super crazy graphics distortions, but just within the iPhoto screen. A few more minutes of this, iPhoto usually crashes (in rare cases, it takes down the entire system). First I had the hard drive replaced. No dice - problems persisted. Then Apple replaced the logic board including the video/graphics card. Still no luck. I took it in again a week ago, and they are stumped. They are apparently working with their engineering team and looking at "logs" (?) but it doesn't sound hopeful. They tell me anything that could be hardware-related has been ruled out, but it's still happening.
System stats:
Mac OS X Lion version 10.7.5
2.8 GHz Intel Core i7
Has anyone had similar issues or hear of anything like this before??First off the 13" Late 2011 Mac notebooks don't really have a add-on Graphics Card in them. They use the Intel HD 3000 graphics chip that is included in the Intel CPU. So I would guess when Apple said they change the graphic card they meant that the graphic system was changed with the logic board and the CPU.
Also the 13" MBPs aren't that great for Photo editing because of the Intel HD 3000 graphic system. But then I do run Photoshop CS5 and Lightroom 4 on a Dell notebook that only has the Intel graphics and I have never had either program crash or give flaky graphic distortions.
I suggest you try Adobe Lightroom, Adobe has a free 30 day trial of it, and see if the same things happen. If Lighroom does the same things then it is hardware related in some way. If Lightroom doesn't crash and or give distorted graphics then it is something to do with iPhoto.
I personally don't use iPhoto as I already own Lightroom and Photoshop.
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Hi, I am a new iPhoto & mac user!
I am encountering some issues with my photo library. Any help/insight would be much appreciated!
Issue #1: I imported some photos in to my iPhoto library from my camera and from an email attachment. Then, I edited them in Photoshop and saved them over the originals (so they should have the same name & location as the original downloads).
When I looked back in my photo library, the thumbnails did not indicate that the images had been edited, but when I clicked on the photo to see the larger image, the changes I made in Photoshop were there.
I also took a photo, edited it, and "Saved As", but made sure to save it in the same folder as the others. It doesn't show up in iPhoto; do I have to import it??
Why is that??
Issue #2: I deleted a few photos and decided to re-import them to iPhoto. In my iPhoto library, there is no indication that there are any hidden photos or events. But when I want to open images in Photoshop, (let's say from "Cookie Baking"), there is a whole other folder entitled "Cookie Baking 2" with all of the photos I thought I deleted. In addition, my "Saved As" photos show up as files to open in Photoshop, but I can't see them in my regular iPhoto library.
How do I delete that "Cookie Baking 2" folder if it doesn't show up under my Mac HD > username > iPhoto library??
thanks!Welcome to the Apple Discussions. The following is to supplement Terence's post:
Using Photoshop (or Photoshop Elements) as Your Editor of Choice in iPhoto.
1 - select Photoshop as your editor of choice in iPhoto's General Preference Section's under the "Edit photo:" menu.
2 - double click on the thumbnail in iPhoto to open it in Photoshop. When you're finished editing click on the Save button. If you immediately get the JPEG Options window make your selection (Baseline standard seems to be the most compatible jpeg format) and click on the OK button. Your done.
3 - however, if you get the navigation window that indicates that PS wants to save it as a PS formatted file. You'll need to either select JPEG from the menu and save (top image) or click on the desktop in the Navigation window (bottom image) and save it to the desktop for importing as a new photo.
This method will let iPhoto know that the photo has been editied and will update the thumbnail file to reflect the edit..
NOTE: With Photoshop Elements 6 the Saving File preferences should be configured: "On First Save: Save Over Current File". Also I suggest the Maximize PSD File Compatabilty be set to Always.
If you want to use both iPhoto's editing mode and PS without having to go back and forth to the Preference pane, once you've selected PS as your editor of choice, reset the Preferences back to "Open in main window". That will let you either edit in iPhoto (double click on the thumbnail) or in PS (Control-click on the thumbnail and seledt "Edit in external editor" in the Contextual menu). This way you get the best of both worlds
2 - double click on the thumbnail in iPhoto to open it in Photoshop. When you're finished editing click on the Save button. If you immediately get the JPEG Options window make your selection (Baseline standard seems to be the most compatible jpeg format) and click on the OK button. Your done.
3 - however, if you get the navigation window that indicates that PS wants to save it as a PS formatted file. You'll need to either select JPEG from the menu and save (top image) or click on the desktop in the Navigation window (bottom image) and save it to the desktop for importing as a new photo.
This method will let iPhoto know that the photo has been editied and will update the thumbnail file to reflect the edit..
Happy New Year
TIP: For insurance against the iPhoto database corruption that many users have experienced I recommend making a backup copy of the Library6.iPhoto (iPhoto.Library for iPhoto 5 and earlier) database file and keep it current. If problems crop up where iPhoto suddenly can't see any photos or thinks there are no photos in the library, replacing the working Library6.iPhoto file with the backup will often get the library back. By keeping it current I mean backup after each import and/or any serious editing or work on books, slideshows, calendars, cards, etc. That insures that if a problem pops up and you do need to replace the database file, you'll retain all those efforts. It doesn't take long to make the backup and it's good insurance.
I've created an Automator workflow application (requires Tiger or later), iPhoto dB File Backup, that will copy the selected Library6.iPhoto file from your iPhoto Library folder to the Pictures folder, replacing any previous version of it. It's compatible with iPhoto 6 and 7 libraries and Tiger and Leopard. Just put the application in the Dock and click on it whenever you want to backup the dB file. iPhoto does not have to be closed to run the application, just idle. You can download it at Toad's Cellar. Be sure to read the Read Me pdf file.
Note: There's now an Automator backup application for iPhoto 5 that will work with Tiger or Leopard. -
IPhoto import: does Aperture import Original and Edited, or just Edited?
If you edit an image in iPhoto, iPhoto creates a copy of the image and stores the original in its own folder. Further edits are on the copy.
When Aperture imports from iPhoto, does it import the Original, the Edited image, or both?
My hunch is it imports the Edited image, and the Original will be lost. Love to know for sure!When you import you'll get a stack for any image that
you have edited in iPhoto. Your edited photo will be
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In a few days I am going to be having a friend edit and print some photos that I've already edited in iPhoto. My friend uses Photoshop. My question is since he may be re-editing the images so that color, contrast, etc. are appropriate to his printer setup how should I deliver the images to him. By this I mean if I export the already edited images from iPhoto to a DVD and give it to him will he be able to make all the same changes I would be able to make in iPhoto. For instance, let's say I had cropped the photo originally to 8x10 and then my friend wanted to print it at 13x19 or something else. Would he be able to do this without the ability to resort to the Revert To Original command?
Would the safest approach be to Revert To Original all the images I am giving to him before exporting the photos to the DVD and then re-edit them while working with my friend on them?
Thanks,
WinTerence,
Thanks!
Another question, I have spent quite a bit of time and energy editing these images in iPhoto and so I'd love to be able to print them out on my friends printer and Windows computer without having to re-edit the originals. As far as I understand it if I simply export the edited images as is his Windows machine won't be able to deal with them because of the iPhoto connection. If, on the other hand, I export these edited images as jpegs would he then be able to print them out on his Windows computer without the necessity of re-editing them?
Thanks,
Winston
if I export the images that I have already edited in iPhoto as jpegs will we be able to print them as edited on a Windows computer? I've never been quite clear on whether
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