HRMD_A IDoc Serialization Help

Hi,
I have a client that wants to activate IDoc serialization for HRMD_A. They have a global system that sends HR master data to multiple regional systems, MDM and SRM.
The requirement is to serialize the IDocs for all regional systems, but not for MDM or SRM.
My understanding is that we would need to activate both outbound and inbound serialization through SALE->Modelling and Implementing Business Processes->Configure Predefined ALE Business Processes->Human Resources->Master Data Distribution->Serialize HR Master Data.
We would activate outbound in the global sending system, and inbound in each regional target system, but not in MDM or SRM.
By activating serialization, will it activate for HRMD_A only, or for HRMDA_ABA as well?
We would then need to make sure that the serialization counters are all initialized in both source and target systems. We can do this with transactions RE_RHALE_HRMDRGOUT and RE_RHALE_HRMDRGIN.
Please correct me if any of the above is incorrect?
Once serialization is activated, how will this effect the system? If for example an IDoc is sent with 100 objects, and one fails, then what status will the IDoc go into? Will all other objects process correctly? How would the error object affect subsequent IDocs?
What steps need to be taken in order to resolve the following potential IDoc errors:
- Change for person xxxxxxxx extends too far into past
Delete IDoc? What to do with counters?
- Object 01 ,z ,xxxxxxxx does not exist: infotype 1001 cannot be created.
Resend missing objects with PFAL and then reprocess IDoc?
- Relationship starting from 01 y xxxxxxxx impossible u2013 01 w zzzzzzzz does not exist/is not active.
Resend missing objects with PFAL and then reprocess IDoc?
- Personnel number xxxxxxxx is locked
Will this sort itself out, or do we need to manually reprocess the Idoc?
- Payroll area yy is locked for master data maintenance.
Reprocess the IDoc after payroll areas is unlocked?
Thanks very much for your help
Edited by: David Bann on Sep 22, 2011 4:52 PM

Hi,
If change pointers are to be written for custom fields then the change document flag at the domain level should be checked for that field. Then maintain an entry for this field in transaction BD52. Object name will be the same as the original fields. Changes to custom fields will be only picked if the change document for such fields is maintained in table BDCP.
Try now!
Reddy

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