HT201343 I have a late 2008 Mac Pro Quad Core 2x2.8 Intel Xeon with Lion 10.7.5- do I need Maverick and will this hardware support the Airplay Mirroring?

I have a late 2008 Mac Pro Quad Core 2x2.8 Intel Xeon with Lion 10.7.5… do I need Maverick and will this hardware support the Airplay Mirroring?

It doesn't mention anything about a Mac Pro. So no.
http://support.apple.com/kb/HT5404
If your computer did support it, you would still need 10.8 or 10.9 for Airplay to work.

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Will upgrading of the GPU do the trick?
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Hardware Overview:
Model Name:          Mac Pro
Model Identifier:          MacPro1,1
Processor Name:          Dual-Core Intel Xeon
Processor Speed:          2.66 GHz
Number Of Processors:          2
Total Number Of Cores:          4
L2 Cache (per processor):          4 MB
Memory:          13 GB
Bus Speed:          1.33 GHz
Boot ROM Version:          MP11.005C.B08
SMC Version (system):          1.7f10
Serial Number (system): xxxxxxxxxxxxxxxxxxxxxx
Hardware UUID:          00000000-0000-1000-8000-00xxxxxxxx
ATI Radeon X1900 XT:
Chipset Model:          ATY,RadeonX1900
Type:          GPU
Bus:          PCIe
Slot:          Slot-1
PCIe Lane Width:          x16
VRAM (Total):          512 MB
Vendor:          ATI (0x1002)
Device ID:          0x7249
Revision ID:          0x0000
ROM Revision:          113-A52027-140
EFI Driver Version:          01.00.140

I have the following Mac Pro which I have upgraded the GPU to an ATI Radeon HD 5770:
Hardware Overview:
Model Name:          Mac Pro
Model Identifier:          MacPro1,1
Processor Name:          Dual-Core Intel Xeon
Processor Speed:          3 GHz
Number of Processors:          2
Total Number of Cores:          4
L2 Cache (per Processor):          4 MB
Memory:          8 GB
Bus Speed:          1.33 GHz
Boot ROM Version:          MP11.005C.B08
SMC Version (system):          1.7f10
Serial Number (system):          G86334VTUPZ
Hardware UUID:          00000000-0000-1000-8000-0017F20153D2
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Will this change or do I need to further upgrade the GPU.
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Hello Mac Pro user,
I have a late 2008 Mac Pro. It will not start anymore. The computer chimes and then goes to the Apple icon screen with spinning cursor, but then it freezes and goes no further.
So I did a single user start up [shift command S],then I let the info. load on the black screen, and found that the system hangs up at this line: Airport: RSN handshake complete on en2. Does anyone know what to do?
How do I get it to boot up again?
Thanks,
Yvette

pull the drives you have. ]
F'ind a way to do a clean system install on another drive.
Clone your user data to another drive also.
ie, create a new solid foundation.
but until your repair your drives, by booting off another device, don't use them. Pull them for now.

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*WD Caviar Black 640GB*
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Transfer Rate Average : 96.4 MB/sec
Access Time : 11.8 ms
Burst Rate : 125.3 MB/sec
*Black Caviar 1TB:*
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Transfer Rate Maximum : 108.7 MB/sec
Transfer Rate Average : 86.1 MB/sec
Access Time : 12.9 ms
Burst Rate : 111.5 MB/sec
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Transfer Rate Maximum : 95.6 MB/sec
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Burst Rate : 112.9 MB/sec
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Kevin

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1) Apple brand cards,
2) "sold in the Apple store" cards, and
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... show all the screens, including Boot up screens, Safe Mode, Installer, Recovery, debug screens, and Alt/Option boot screens. At this writing, these choices include:
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☞ In the Finder, select Go ▹ Utilities from the menu bar, or press the key combination shift-command-U. The application is in the folder that opens.
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Copy the messages to the Clipboard by pressing the key combination command-C. Paste into a reply to this message by pressing command-V.
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Please don't post screenshots of log messages—post the text.
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About RAM installation in the Mac Pro
Mac Pro memory arrangement photos
Mac Pro Memory Configuration
Memory Tests- "2008" Mac Pro
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I turned on my mac this morning to find it's normal loading screen of grey with the darker grey logo in centre..all normal at this stage. This was followed by a wipe from top to bottom making the background grey a little darker and in the centre the apple logo was replaced by what appeared to be a semi transparent power button symbol with the words. "You need to restart your computer. Hold down the Power button for several seconds or press the restart button"
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Warm regards
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Make an appointment. But in the meantime...
So from cold boot, you can't do the Command Option P R through 2-3 full reboot cycles (don't let up)?
Unplug everything and let it sit overnight without power cord or anything. That is the only way to rest the SMC system management controller on the 2008 model, the older model still had a reset button.
Also learned that the 2008 Macs can all boot AHT if the original OEM installer was used to install the system and the drive has not be completely reformatted and retail OS X used, just holding down "D" on startup. But you have to
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If you have 3rd party memory, remove that (would need to before taking in probably).
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Basically, I'm planning on buying a Mac Pro "Quad Core" 2.8 and installing Boot Camp and a Windows OS startup. This puts me into the notoriously tricky area of picking the right version of Windows for my needs, something I haven't really had to deal with in regards to OS X.
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This means I'm wondering about a couple of features that I may or may not need, and it would be of great help if you folks could point me in the right direction regarding these:
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*Dual Processor Support* – the Quad Core, of course, is a dual processor – will I get better performance from a version of Windows that list "Dual Processor Support" among its features (basically, the "pro", "business", or "ultimate" versions of XP and Vista)?
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http://communities.vmware.com/community/beta/fusion
http://forums.parallels.com/
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The problem(s) come with trying to use BootCamp Assist and setting up partitioning, and it only makes it harder - not easier - on Mac Pro (you aren't and don't want to use your OS X boot drive).
Windows on Mac forum @ MacRumors
http://forums.macrumors.com/forumdisplay.php?f=86
And their Mac Pro area http://forums.macrumors.com which has a lot of Vista talk from Mac Pro owners.
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Radeon 3870: http://www.hardmac.com/news/2008-06-16/#8451
Vista graphics: http://www.barefeats.com/harper11.html
Memory: http://www.barefeats.com/harper12.html
Drives: http://www.barefeats.com/harper9.html
WD 300GB Raptor: http://www.barefeats.com/hard103.html
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I buy most of the upgrades I need over the last ten years from OWC http://www.MacSales.com that specializes in Mac.
http://eshop.macsales.com/shop/memory/Mac-Pro-Memory
http://eshop.macsales.com/item/Western%20Digital/WD6400AAKS/
- until the WD "Black" series (I guess Blackbird name or SR71 are already taken) along with 3rd generation of their RE series drives. WD has been popular, reliable, with Mac Pro for last two years. Can't say the same of every vendor. Samsung F1 is also a real winner.
If you buy only one book to understand and get the most out of OS X: "Mac OS X: The Missing Manual" (Pogue has a Missing Manual Series on most everything, and this is the most popular recommended for Mac OS).
http://books.slashdot.org/books/08/02/27/1551206.shtml
I needed 3-4 for Vista before I found "Administrator's Pocket Consultant" and O'Reilly's "Vista Annoyances" are both excellent along with MS Press's "Inside Out."

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