Hyperlinks in footnote

Hello everybody,
after using PDFG and implementing it for customers for quite some time, I have just noticed that PDFG doesn't seem to be able to convert hyperlinks in a Word document when those links are placed in a footnote.
If I try to do the same thing manually using the Word/Acrobat pair on the PDFG server, everything works as expected. Is this a known issue or a limitation of the product? If not, is there any setting that I'm not aware of?
Any hint would be greatly appreciated!
Steffen.

Sorry to come back to this but I have a related question if that's ok.
When I export to pdf from indesign, I made sure that the include bookmarks and hyperlinks was checked. When the pdf was created, I was able to click on any of the TOC entries to be taken to the correct page. However I thought that all the entries would be included in the bookmarks tab but there's nothing there when I view the pdf.
I wondered if you could tell me how to get the bookmarks to appear?

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