I've decided to go with the Zen Touch. Any advi

hey guys, through all the research, i've decided to go with the zen touch 20gb (unless i find out what price the 40 will be sold at). Anyway, I'm planning on getting one by the end of the week. Anyone have any advice on first things to do? are there any upgrades or downloads i should get right off the bat? by any chance are there any nuances that the player has that it would be important to know? any common problems that there is a way of avoiding? any information would be great. im getting it from amazon.com for 99, well that is unless i can find an actual store that actually carries it, which im sure i wont. im excited...thanks guys.

Since the player is very new, there havn't been any updates for the firmware, if that's what you're wondering. I personally don't own a Touch, rather, I have an Xtra, but basically just follow the instructions on the installation manual (usually tells you to charge the device for x amount of hours, how to connect the device to your computer, install the included software, etc).
The only thing that is notable about the Touch is that when you first get it, the touchpad takes a while to get used to... or so I've heard.
Oh, and someone found the 40GB version at http://www.ecost.com/ecost/ecsplash/...asp?dpno=65048
Dunno if this is for real or not though

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Probleme mit dem Zen Toch 40gb/ Problems with the Zen Touch 40gb!!:( Out of Gara

Hallo ich br?uchte dringend Hilfe. Ich kriege den Creative Zen 40gb nicht mehr zum laufen Da er nur ab und zu angeht Das ?rgerliche daran ist das ich im Ausland war und das Teil nur 4 mal benutzt habe Leider geht er nur ab und zu an und wenn er mal an war, ist er dauernd abgest?rzt Da ich so lange weg war, ist mir jetzt auch noch die Garantie abgelaufen ( Jahr 3 Monate). Im Media Markt bekomme ich leider keine Unterst?tzung nichteinmal ein Versuch das Ger?t auf Kulanz reparieren zu lassen
Leider ist mir das ein wenig zuviel Geld f?r 3 mal musikh?ren. Vielleicht kann mir hier einer Helfen!!!!!!!
I have big Problems with my Zen Touch 40gb May be one of the members here can help me!!because my local dealer isnt able to do this Because the player is older than one year ( y and 3 months) I think that the garanty is normaly to short for this player. In germany you can read a lot about the problems of the Zen. Can it be that the Software doesnt work 00 % I was the last year in Poland so i had the zen 3 times in use The player freeze everytime and the biggest problem now, i cant switch the player on to make an update or something !!! please help.
Greetings

sry about ur problem. I had/have some of ur problems with my zen micro 5g. have u tried 2 reset it into recovery mode and do a cleanup? it won't mess up any of ur songs or anything like that.

Is The Zen Touch Sensitive To Moti

I notice that everytime I use the Zen Touch in my car, or when I'm walking the player either locks up, randomly selects tracks, or just don't act right. But when I have it placed in one place, it plays just fine. Is this common with the Zen Touch? If so, is there anything that can be done about it's Thanks.

I only have the lock button engaged when I'm in my car, or walking with the player, while I'm playing audio tracks. I use the pause/play button a lot also. That's when the problem begins.

Creative, Is it worth it? (i.e. whats your experience with the Zen 16gb) and Firmware questi

After doing a sizable amount of research on the Creative Zen 6gb MP3 player, I was relati'vely comfortable with the product and decided to purchase it.
However, after browsing this forum for a few hours, I see quite a few things that trouble me about Creative in general:
"Real person" my (CENSORED) -horrible customer support
Creative Expects 3rd Quarter Loss, Sells HQ Building?
Message to Daniel_K -lack of product support/customer relations
and a countless number of other posts about hardware and software issues with the Zen
I really like the features built into the MP3 player (FM transmitter, voice recorder, Equalizer) and do not want to sell my soul to Ipod.
That being said, I wanted to see if there was anyone on this forum that actually liked their Zen and did not have issues with it.
I would greatly appreciate your positi've feedback as I hope that I will not have to spend countless more hours searching for and then researching a different MP3 player that fits my needs.
In addition, I was curious about the user interface on the Zen. I know that it uses ID3 tagging and that a folder directory cannot be used to view mp3s on the player (unless this has been added in a firmware update?, however I checked the site and did not see anything about this addition). How impeding is this ID3 tagging reliance if about 00 to 500 of my mp3s have incorrect tagging? as in, will I go crazy trying to retag everything because all I see if "Unknown" for all the data?
Yeah, that's about it for my long winded post...
Thanks,
Joe?

Just return from Mexico and found my Zen 4 GB player missing from a light finger baggage handler. I would not even consider, in a thousand years, of purchasing from the "fruit company" their overprice Ipod without a FM receiver. The Creative Zen rocks. Need I say more.

What is the deal with the Zen Aurvana headphones?

Can anyone explain this to me? (Please note that I am a review addict, and look at reviews before buying anything so I don't make a regretful choice. One of the things that sealed my decision on the Zen was the 8.3 from CNET.)
I've been deciding to upgrade from the Zen's EP-480 set for a few weeks now, and it's a tossup between the Aurvana and the EP-630.
Problem is, everywhere seems to report that the Aurvana is very average. Looking at customer reviews on retail sites and media critics, they all barely rate the Aurvana above average. Looking in the same sources at the EP-630, it has a close to perfect score from various ones.
Now, here's what blows my mind. I stumble upon Creative's European site, and the reception for the Aurvana is better than the EP-630 set. Other countries seem to love the Aurvana more than the EP-630, while the US does not. See for yourself:
http://hu.europe.creative.com/produc...397&nav=awards
http://hu.europe.creative.com/produc...702&nav=awards
What's the deal here? I need help with my decision from fellow Creative fans. Has anyone owned both?
Message Edited by BetaWolf on 02-15-200802:57 PM

I use it quite a bit for zooming in and out (by dragging up and down) but you have to be careful you don't move left or right when doing this as it then becomes a bit unpredictable as you say...
If you just want to use the playhead for dragging left and right (and if you can't find a pref to turn it off) you'll just have to be careful to drag only in the horizontal axis and not up or down..
Cheers
Robo

Is the Zen Touch 2 compatible with micro SDHC?

Hi,
The specifications page on the creative website showed that the Zen Touch 2 was compatible with micro SD cards, but now I'm wondering if it's compatible with the micro SDHC?
In advance thanks,
TheKingpin?

Hi.
I know this was posted some time ago... But I thought I would add the page where Creative tells us which micro sdhc cards (and card class) they would like us to use:
http://support.creative.com/kb/ShowA...s.creative.com

Arranging tracks with the Zen Stone P

I've recently upgraded from a Zen Nano Plus to a Zen Stone Plus. With the Nano I had?Creative Zen Nano Plus Media Explorer, which allowed me to change the order of tracks?in a folder and number them automatically. Zen Nano Plus Media Explorer?doesn't work with the Stone, so any arranging and numbering of tracks has to be done manually, which is a right pain.
Is there a version of Creative Media Explorer available for the Stone Plus, or perhaps some third-party alternati've that would allow me to do the same thing? Thanks in advance.

I have the Stone (not Stone Plus) ... it doesnt have bookmarking, but it does have the ability to fast forward/rewind by holding down the skip fwd/back keys. Also (and I dont know if this is a function of my audiobook or of the player), it seems to create a .pos file next to my audiobook file, so if i move from an audiobook to my songs and then back, it picks up the audiobook where i left off.

Trying to decide whether to get the iPad with the 3G. Any recommendations?

Trying to decide whether to get the iPad with the 3G. Any recommendations? Also, does my dataplan for my iPhone good for the iPad?

If you already have a phone, then for 20 per month ( depending on your carrier) you can tether and you are all set, since you have the phone, i dont see the sense in the extra 130 for the 3 g in the pad. If you are out a lot, and want the convenience of a single device, then the 3 g is for you, but otherwise, tethering is a fine option.

Car Kit compatibility with the Zen To

Sorry if these are stupid questions, but will the Creative Cassette Car Kit (here) work with my Zen Touch?
And if not: is there any other product or way out there that allows me to hook up my Zen Touch to my car? I only have a cassette and radio, no CD player, so I'm really looking for a way to hook up my mp3 player. =/

Yes, it'll work with the Touch.

Accessories that come as standard with the Zen Vision: M 30gb.

Hi,?This may be a silly question, but do headphones come as standard with the Zen Vision: M? The only reason I ask is because I know it isn't standard to get?a charger. Also, there is an option to buy an accessories pack which has a charger but also has earphones. It is possible that these earphones are just better than the ones included but I thought it better to ask the silly question before I buy ?Thanks

Package Contents
ZEN Vision:M Player
Earphones
Sync Adapter
USB Mini-B Cable
USB Host Cable (ZEN Vision:M 60GB only)
Pouch
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Quick Start Guide

Is the Zen Touch Compatible with Yahoo Music Unlimite

i'm hoping to sign up for what looks like a pretty decent service at an acceptable price point. however i don't see the zen touch (mine is 20gb) on the list of compatible 'windows plays for sure' devices. i know the micro is.
anyone know what the status is of the zen touch and if there is anything i can do about it if current software is not compatible? thanks!!

cohenfi've wrote:
it was easier to be patient before yahoo's $5 per month announcement!!
thanks all....
It's just a marketing <strike>scam</strike> scheme by Creative to force you to upgrade to the Zen Micro, or the upcoming Creative Zen 20GB.
First they tell us an update for Xtra & Touch by 2nd quarter? Then delay it until god knows when... disappointing really

Why is the Zen Touch.

I just wanted know know one thing, WHY DID YOU GUYS MAKE THE SMALLER ONES BETTER THAN THIS?!?!?! I own a 40gb creative zen touch and a friend of mine has a smaller 5gb one with exactly everything the touch has except the touch pad on the smaller one is better (liek the design you guys decided to choose) and having radio, as well as having the mic thing where you can record anything without using your computer. For example you can record important meetings in case you miss something out during the meeting without have a microphone connected to the computer to record. (if you dont know what i mean well i mean you just have the mp3 and you put the record function on during a conversation and you can listen to it afterwards instead of using a regular computer with a microphone at home...)
Anyway my whole point is why make the smaller ones better than the bigger ones? 20-40gb is very nice but why make some smaller ones better and more options to work with? Is it because the Zen Touch's are older and the smaller ones are newer?
This makes me want to get a refund now and get a Zen Vision or whatever can do Radio/Music/Pictures/videos/mic recording/lots of size (20gb or 40gb).
Basically this sounds like a media source player but i have no idea since the things are so big and can barely fit in a pocket.
Please respond in advance and thank you for your time.
EDIT: I forgot to ask, why is the Zen Touch so thick?Message Edited by Someguy0 on 0-23-2006 :53 PM

The reason (I speculate) that the Zen Touch doesn't have all the features that the Zen Micro has is because it is a much older player. It was made before Creative started putting FM radio adn Microphones in all their players.
And it is so thick because of the 24 hour battery, which takes up a good part of the player.

Should I buy the Zen Micro or the Zen Touch Playe

I am trying to decide whether to buy the Zen Micro or the Zen Touch. They are roughly the same price. I do not think I need 20GB, but I hate to constrain myself.
On the other hand, the Zen Micro appears to offer a few extra features like FM radio, replaceable battery, voice recording and advanced song handling (DJ, for example). The Zen Touch seems to have just the most basic functions.
So what do I do, get a gigantic player with minimal functionality (less than an iPod or Nomad) or a smaller player with more functionality (I am unlikely to use voice and FM recording, and use the FM radio minimally)?
It just seems like the overall Micro firmware is more robust than the Touch firmware, but I'm not sure the tradeoff is worth it.
What are your thoughts?

I have a Zen Touch. I do not have an enormous music collection, but have maybe 50 or 60 albums on the player. This is something like 6 or 7 GB. It is WAY too much for me (even this much music). I do not need even that many songs on it at once. With support via WMP0 to synchronize, you could just synch up your favorites every time, switch them around, eventually synch up Napter 2 Go stuff and still have a ton on a 5 GB player. Features on the Micro that sound flashy but I would NEVER use are the calendar, contact thing. I have this on my phone, too, and don't use it. I have a PDA--I DO use that. An MP3 player is a pitiful substitute for a PDA (and a PDA is a lousy MP3 player). I would use the Audible Audio support in the Micro. Touch does not have this. I am a huge Audible fan. I had seriously looked at a Rio Carbon, but now that the Micro is out, that would be the player I would buy if I had it to do over again. They do need to develope a way to charge your extra battery for the Micro. The ability to swap batteries is pretty stupid the way it is now--you can only charge it in the player. They need a charger for the spare. Just my opinion, but I think some people get carried away with hard dri've potential. I can't forsee EVER wanting to carry that much music around with me, especially when it will be so easy to change what is on the player once full support for WMP0 comes out. I am just not away from my home computer library for that length of time that I would want to carry most of it around with me. I vote for the Micro.

A Petition to ask Creative to update the firmware of the Zen Touch to Include EAX capabiliti

Hi. I have been looking for a new hard dri've MP3 player and am thinking about getting the Zen Touch. But I was unhappy that creative removed the EAX functions that were in their other players. I will be sending this to creative to show them that people do like EAX in the player. If you would like to help me with this you can post and leave your name. Thanks! This was taken off of the creative Zen Extra?s website describing EAX: Customize Your Audio Playback with Innovati've EAX? Technologies Advanced EQ lets you customize your music playback with Equalizer presets or set your own using the 4-band custom equalizer Smart Volume Management? adjusts the playback volume of all the tracks on your playlist so they will remain at the same level without you reaching for the volume control between songs! Time Scaling speeds up or slows down an audio track with no distortion Sleep Timer and Wake to Music Feature Environmental Effects simulate audio environments such as "Concert Hall" or "Arena" Spatialization Effects expand your soundstage
See here: http://eax.creative.com/nomad/ To go to the EAX website to learn some more.
If you look HERE on the little flash demo you can see in the LCD screen of the touch that this picture of the touch HAS EAX. If the touch had EAX and creative removed it just before selling it then it must be easy to put back in.
Update:

Hi everyone.
So I just went through all through posts to see how many names we have, and it turns out that there was much more discution than I thought there was. With all the names from the thread and from what UT-king has added we have ~556~ names. Its less than what I thought it was, but its still really good.
The thread has been read 6795 times, has been posted on 36 times, and has a 5 star rating.
Thanks every one for helping me with this !
Here is the post that has the signatures that UT-King has collected. http://forums.americas.creative.com/creativelabs/board/message?board.id=dap&message.id=4732#M4732 You will need to scroll down a bit as it is the 5th post on that page
Uptaded on 4/27/05

Message Edited by Torstein on 04-28-2005 06:54 AM


Spetznaz24 wrote:
I agree, Creative needs to put the EAX function back and allow for it to be USB MASS Storage Device without drivers,
Sergey K.
I agree with the EAX Function back, and also the USB MASS Storage Device.dzyl-

Is the Zen Touch Mac Compatib

My Cousin has an iMac and i'm visiting him and I was wondering if I could transfer tunes from his computer to my Zen Touch. Also, is the zen touch like the ipod where it will only support syncing with one computer. Where it makes you delete everything on the device before setting up another partnership.

> we dont take kindly to apples round here...u know if it
> dont got a usb port then it work wrk either...i know it
> sounds stupid but i've seen apple computers without usb
> ports...wat were they thinking
Duh -- probably the same thing the _PC_ makers were thinking back before USB was invented!
I agree -- your childish anti-Mac rant _does_ sound stupid.
Thanks for sharing ;-/

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