ICC Profile on Mac

Hello there,
after reading through the ICC threads, I found some similar symptoms to my problem, but not the whole story...
I'd like to print from Lightroom (Mac/German version) using my printer's ICC profile as using the printer settings and defaults only results in a rather dull image, almost without any reds. When I click on "Other..." in the Color Management area, there is only one printer profile (hp color LaserJet RGB v402) in the list but nothing else. I have the ICC profiles for my Konica/Minolta/QMS Magicolor 2350 in the /Library/ColorSync/Profiles folder but, as said, these profiles don't show up.
When I export the image to JPEG and print it with the Preview program, colors are colorful.
Any ideas why Lightroom doesn't show a long list of printer profile (including mine) as in all the beautiful screenshots in the manual and elsewhere?
Bernd

Hello Andrew,
ColorSync Utility repair ran fine and without problems.
Looking at the color spaces makes me a bit wonder however. I've meanwhile installed one of the Epson ICC files and that one shows up along the HP one that already was there from somewhere. Both, the HP and the Epson profiles are RGB profiles while the one for the Magicolor 2350 is a CMYK profile. Now, CMYK isn't Lightroom's cup of tea, but could/does this really extend to printing profiles?
Bernd

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Thomas
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