IDOC Direction

Hi Experts,
I had a question on IDOC,
1. How will the system determine the Direction of the IDOC for a PO for a Vendor, if the vendor has both Inbound and Outbound parameters defined in his partner profile, does a PO has a Inbound process code? (because, we may also receive PO from customer)?
so please help me out
Regards,
MAX

Hi Max,
In this specific case of PO, the outbound and the inbound message types differ - inbound ORDERS has a process code that generates a sales order, not a PO. It is PORDCR1 that generates a PO. On the outbound side, there's no process code that generates PORDCR1 from the PO, only ORDERS (and ORDCHG for order change).
But in the general case, the same message type can be both for inbound and for outbound. Your document can call the ALE service by means of output determination (or some other function) to generate an IDoc. In such case the "outbound" part of the partner profile will be used.
On the other hand, an external system can place the IDoc in SAP and call the ALE service to process it - ALE will then check the inbound part of the partner profile.
I.e. it is the calling application that tells if the outbound process shall be initiated or the input process.
BR
Raf

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Edited by: Christian Riekenberg on Feb 1, 2012 2:41 PM

Hey folks!
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Ron
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http://www.sdn.sap.com/irj/scn/go/portal/prtroot/docs/library/uuid/bd5950ff-0701-0010-a5bc-86d45fd52283?quicklink=index&overridelayout=true
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IDOC Monitoring urgent

Hi SAPpers,
Does anybody knows what is IDOC Monitoring?
The step by step configuration for IDOC monitoring.
Was is the purpose of that?
What is the Tcode for monitoring IDOC?
Thanks will be rewarded

Hi,
Use
You can easily and effectively monitor inbound and outbound processing of IDocs using special reports and graphic displays. An agent can also be notified automatically using a workflow if an emergency occurs (active monitoring).
Features
The following tools are available for monitoring:
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-   IDoc numbers
-   Ports
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·        IDoc Statistics
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If you can receive IDocs via qRFC, you can monitor the inbound queue using a special transaction.
·        Monitoring the Outbound Queue
If you can send IDocs via qRFC, you can monitor the outbound queue using a special transaction.
·        Active Monitoring
This function provides you with a report that informs you if the number of critical IDocs exceeds a certain threshold.
Active Monitoring Locate the document in its SAP Library structure
Use
This report automatically informs the agents responsible if too many incorrect IDocs are found.
Integration
Active monitoring is not used for processing or reimporting of an incorrect IDoc. Exception handling of every incorrect IDoc is responsible for this.
Activities
You plan the report to run regularly with a variant. The variant also informs the report of the status values to be selected: If the critical status contains more IDocs than specified in the critical number of IDocs, a message is sent to a predefined recipient.
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Example
An important customer orders goods using EDI on working days, between 8am and 6pm. These goods are to be delivered at 4pm the next day. To ensure that the delivery is made on time, the ordered quantity must be recorded by midday on the day of delivery. The active monitoring function is to be used at 8am every morning to determine whether there are any orders which could not be processed automatically. The report, therefore, is started at the same time every day and 0 is selected as the critical number of IDocs. The agent responsible is notified if any incorrect IDocs are found and can then manually process the outstanding orders by midday.
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Procedure
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IF this is an XI Production box you may need to get the appropriate changes be approved by your Controller as this is only a temporary change and not a change request, hence only a workaround
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I have a SWCV called MY_SAP_BASIS, which is defined in the SLD with SAP BASIS as prereq. I import this SWCV into IR and build some objects. I wish to use an IDoc, so I import it into SAP BASIS, and it appears under my SWCV (MY_SAP_BASIS) in the "Basis Objects" section, but not directly under "Imported Objects" - as I would expect because of the relationship created in the SLD.
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Jai/Michal,
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