IDOC Segment Definition received instead of Segment type

Hello Folks,
When i send a Z Idoc Segment from A to B System, It is successfull from A System, but in B System sometimes its erroringout because in the inbound idoc Segment Definition is coming instead of Segment type.
For Example
From A System I have sent Z1P0002 segment
B System I have received Z2P0002000(Which is the segment definition for Segment type Z1P0002)
Any inputs to above problem?

Hi,
The problem may be due to system B using a older release version of the IDoc. In those scenarios, even though your IDoc type is recognized, it may not be possible for the reciever to determine the right segment version of the reciever.
There are options in the WE20 partner profile configuration, Field Segment release in IDoc type and Segment Appl. rel. which enable the partner system preventing from erroring out.
BR/Yogesh
Edited by: Yogesh Surender on Jun 1, 2009 12:34 PM

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