Idoc without activating change pointer

what is the alternative way of without activating the change pointer in bd61,bd50 and bd52 in idoc creation??
i mean there is a way of doing code instead of that. can anybody gv me that <b>sample code</b>...
thanx in advance...

Hi Biswajit,
Please check this link which will show you step by step on how to configure creation of IDoc (inbound and outbound).
http://help.sap.com/saphelp_erp2004/helpdata/en/dc/6b835943d711d1893e0000e8323c4f/content.htm
http://www.sapgenie.com/sapgenie/docs/ale_scenario_development_procedure.doc
Hope this will help to start with.
Regards,
Ferry Lianto
Please reward points if helpful.

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