Implementation of BPM in PI 7.3

Hi all,
Our client is upgrading the pi server from pi 7.1 to PI 7.3 (java only).
So as an up gradation process we need to implement some BPM scenarios of PI 7.1 in PI 7.3.
Could any one let us know how to approach for the above situation.
Regards,
Abhilash

Hi Abhilash,
You should have some understanding about SAP BPM notations, SAP BPM and BRM comes with SAP PI 7.3 java stack version so you have to build bussiness process using BPMN.
refer below link and get some idea about BPMN.
http://help.sap.com/saphelp_nw73/helpdata/en/1e/b250a408ff44c28ea7f1a53b5e7791/frameset.htm
Regards,
Raj

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