Importing images as smart objects?

When importing new images into cs5, which become Smart Objects and which do not?

mediafred, have you checked out the effect of Preferences – General – Options – Place or Drag Raster Images As Smart Objects?

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How to place raster images as smart objects?

I'm trying to duplicate Photoshop's File:Place menu functionality and I'm experiencing something that I can't figure out. (I've added my code to the end of this message.)
I have a variety of test EPS images that I can run through the File:Place menu. They all appear on the document as "Smart Objects". That is I can then do a bunch of transforms to the image (like rotate, move, deform) before committing to the image to the document.
The important point here is that some images, when opened by Photoshop, first ask that I "Rasterize EPS Format" while others just open up without comment.
While doing these File:Place actions, I've been using the Listener plugin that comes with the SDK to generate code dumps of my actions. From these I've then generated my own code for placing images onto a document. I've had to re-arrange the code a bit to work in Objective-C so there's a good chance that I've done something wrong while translating.
Now if you look at my code you notice a commented out section. If you uncomment those lines then you basically have what I got from the Listener plugin log. But the problem is that this code then doesn't act like the File:Place menu action. It creates a new layer, places the image on the page - but its gone one step too far and the image is no longer a "Smart Object". The image is committed to the layer.
With a bit of experimenting I commented out the line that you can see commented out in my code. However, this does something odd. For all images you can see Photoshop put up a busy icon for a few seconds showing that it is process, but only images that Photoshop wants to "Rasterize EPS Format" actually appear on the page as Smart Objects. Trying to place the images that Photoshop doesn't rasterize results in nothing appearing.
That's my problem. If I uncomment that line in my code then all images that I test with appear on the page - but not as Smart Objects. If I comment out the code then only images that Photoshop wants to rasterize appear - but those that do appear then appear as Smart Objects.
So that's my goal: to place any image onto a document as a Smart Object just like Photoshop's File:Place menu command does. Any ideas where I'm going wrong?
- (SPErr)photoshopPlayeventPlace:(char *)cPath
PIActionDescriptor result = NULL;
Auto_Desc descriptor;
Auto_Desc offsetDetails;
SPErr error = kSPNoError;
Handle aliasValue = NULL;
FullPathToAlias(cPath, aliasValue);
do
error = sPSActionDescriptor->PutAlias(descriptor.get(), keyNull, aliasValue);
if (error) break;
// error = sPSActionDescriptor->PutEnumerated(descriptor.get(), keyFreeTransformCenterState, typeQuadCenterState, enumQCSAverage);
// if (error) break;
error = sPSActionDescriptor->PutUnitFloat(offsetDetails.get(), keyHorizontal, unitDistance, 0);
if (error) break;
error = sPSActionDescriptor->PutUnitFloat(offsetDetails.get(), keyVertical, unitDistance, 0);
if (error) break;
error = sPSActionDescriptor->PutObject(descriptor.get(), keyOffset, classOffset, offsetDetails.get());
if (error) break;
error = sPSActionControl->Play(&result, eventPlace, descriptor.get(), plugInDialogSilent);
if (error) break;
while (false);
if (result != NULL) sPSActionDescriptor->Free(result);
if (aliasValue != NULL) sPSHandle->Dispose(aliasValue);
return error;

If you want to go with Batch I would recommend creating an Action of more or less these steps:
• set the resolution to the same as the background image’s
• change the image from Background Layer to regular Layer if necessary
• convert it to a Smart Object
• add a Drop Shadow Layer Style to the image (do not use Global Angle)
• place the background image (File > Place …)
• move it behind the image layer
• Image > Reveal All
• make Selection from that layer’s transparency (cmd-click its icon in the Layers Panel) and use Image > Crop
• select and transform the image layer to fit the intended position
This would naturally work out best if the images had the same size and proportions.
For the reflection on the floor duplicate the image, flip it vertically, move it in position and reduce its opacity to maybe 10%.
Realistically you may have to hide it partially behind the pillows, a Vector Mask would be an option.

Possible bug when opening NEF-images as Smart Objects in PS CS3?

In architectural images I often apply lens corrections (Rotation, Distortion, vertical Transformation) to my RAW (NEF) images.
When I open such an image in PS CS3 as a PSD all is fine, that means all the lens correction is applied.
But when I open the same image in PS as a Smart Object the lens correction is not applied, i.e. PS shows the image with all LR-editing (such as color temperature, exposure, contrast, etc) except for the lens correction data.
What is wrong here?
I'm running LR 3.2 and PS CS3.
Thank you for your input.
ErnstK

Thank you for your answers.
It occurred to me - and Ian's post seems to confirm this - that PS CS3 is not fully compatible with LR3.2.
When I chose <Edit in CS3> (to open the image as PSD) I get the message that my Camera Raw plug-in is 4.6 and it gives me the choice to <Open Anyway> or to <Render by LR>. I usually chose the latter and I assume that this is technically an Export.
When I chose <Open as Smart Object> it just opens the image in CS3 without any dialog in between.
I guess it's time to upgrade to CS5.
Thank you all.
ErnstK

Cannot open raw image as smart object from ACR 8.4

Hi
I just noticed that I am not able to open an image as a smart object from ACR 8.4. The tooltip says I can by holding down the shift key but doing so has no effect. I reset all my preferences to make sure but that hasn't fixed the problem.
Thanks
J

I thought it was the Alt (Opt) key that did that. I'll go check
No, you are right. It is Shift, and it is working OK for me with 8.4 Windows 7

Refresh underlying image of smart object

Hello,
I made some basic adjustments in Lightroom and then opened the image as a smart object in Photoshop.
If I decide to make more changes in Lightroom how do I tell Photoshop to 'refresh' the underlying image?
Thanks,
Will

wjl11 wrote:
Since the underlying file is a dng, when I 'replace contents' in photoshop, ACR pops up.
I never used ACR to adjust the file, I used Lightroom.
Do I just assume that the ACR settings are what I applied to the file in Lightroom?
LR and ACR store settings for the Adobe Conversion Engine in vasious places File MetaData, Sidecar files and ACR database to name some. If an embedded smart object is a RAW file the smart object has it set of Raw conversion setting. You can in Photoshop use menu Layers>Smart Objects>New Smart Object via Copy to create a independent new smart object layer. Once this is done in Photoshop if you double click on the copied layer leyer's smart object icon in the layers palette ACR will open on the new copy with its copied RAW Conversion settings. You can change the setting an have ACR update the copy's RAW settings. You will not have two different RAW conversions in Photoshop on layers you can blend together to bring out more detail. With Smart Objects you dealing with copies...

Apply image with smart object?

What is the trick to be able to use "apply image" to a smart object? If not can someone explain the logic? Thanks

Can't yet.

Unable to Save my Smart Object without "Flattening the Image"

Hey there, I am helpless.
I am Using Photoshop CC 2014, always the newest version, on a mac.
Here's the problem: I am usually working in PSDs with many layers, and some smart objects. Inside of the smart objects, I have content that I can change.
So when I save the contents inside of a Smart Object, it also changes them inside of the main PSD.
BUT - since months, I can't save the changes inside of a Smart Object. Photoshop is telling me:
Can't save this document back to its original file format. Flatten layers and discard extra data as necessary and choose File > Save again.
When I flatten the image, the Smart Object has no usage for me, because it's like a rasterized layer.
Someone help me? I didn't find a solution in the internet!
Btw: I already tried reinstalling Photoshop. The issue is still there.
Thank you.

If that is not the case please read this with regard to general trouble-shooting, restoring Preferences after making sure all customized presets like Actions, Patterns, Brushes etc. have been saved might be of special interest:
http://blogs.adobe.com/crawlspace/2012/07/photoshop-basic-troubleshooting-steps-to-fix-mos t-issues.html

File Size for Rasterized vs. Smart Object Images

Hello,
I am scaling smaller images up to the full canvas size for a project (around 200% of original size). I have tried scaling images up as both a smart object, and also converting it to a rasterized layer, then scaling it up. I noticed that almost every time I leave the image a smart object and then scale the image up and save it for web, it is a smaller filesize than if I would convert it to a rasterized layer and then save it for web (sometimes up to 5% smaller). Does anyone know why this happens, or if it is changing the quality of the image by leaving it as a smart object?
Note: I am using very large images, with an original filesize of 1-3 MB.
Thanks for the help!

EDIT: Just to clarify, I am talking about the JPEG image file size being smaller, not the PSD file size
I do have maximum compatibiliy set for my PSD.
I am saving out all my images for this experiment out as a JPEG at 50% quality. I attached a screenshot of my save for web settings.
I also attached the rasterized image and the smart object image. I also attached the scaled down version of the image, which is what I am scaling up to create the rasterized and smart object images. Let me know if this is what you need to fully examine, and thank you for the help!
Here is the rasterized image:
Here is the smart object image:
Here is the scaled down verison of the image:
My Save for Web settings:

PS Smart Object Import Render issues from AI

I have scoured these forums for a while to find anything regarding these circumstances. I apologize if this has been mentioned before but I'm trying to find some way to mitigate this issue.
When importing a vector smart object into Photoshop from Illsutrator I end up with text rendering issues. The fonts render as if they were assigned the sharp AA setting, despite having the crisp AA setting on the AI source.
The pixel previewed AI opened vector smart object looks clean and crisp.
Any ideas on how to fix the text rendering issues?

I have scoured these forums for a while to find anything regarding these circumstances. I apologize if this has been mentioned before but I'm trying to find some way to mitigate this issue.
When importing a vector smart object into Photoshop from Illsutrator I end up with text rendering issues. The fonts render as if they were assigned the sharp AA setting, despite having the crisp AA setting on the AI source.
The pixel previewed AI opened vector smart object looks clean and crisp.
Any ideas on how to fix the text rendering issues?

SMART OBJECTS TEMP FOLDER

I use smartobjects a lot when I am creating collages or my graphics in photoshop. What is surprising me these days is that when I import a photo as a smart object, if I click it in the layers panel it opens in a separate window, so I can edit just that particular photo, by adding adjustment layers, duplicating etc. My surprise is that when I try to save it it opens the temp folder.
Now I can't save my new edits, because this was very useful in case I want to change or edit the adjustment layer. If I still got the background, I can merge all layers and save it and all changes will be updated in the main document, but if I don't like the changes, that means I will have to start all over again.
Anyone knows why this is happenning to me. I have the current CS5 12.0.4.
Thank you,
Shadreck

srukweza wrote:
I use smartobjects a lot when I am creating collages or my graphics in photoshop. What is surprising me these days is that when I import a photo as a smart object, if I click it in the layers panel it opens in a separate window, so I can edit just that particular photo, by adding adjustment layers, duplicating etc. My surprise is that when I try to save it it opens the temp folder.
Please clearify two things for me. How do you import a photo as a smart object? and when you wrote duplicating what did you dupe.
When I do collages I populate my Collage templates with image files using Photoshop's menu File>Place. The image layers are smart object and embedded it the layer is a copy of the original image file. It can be any image file type RAW, PSD, Jpeg, PNG etc. When I double click on an image layer smart object icon in the layers palette Photoshop Opens the embedded file in the smart object layer. If the embedded file is a RAW file ACR open first I can re-adjust the current smart objects raw setting an then open the image in Photoshop. Then I have a choice of closing the image without saving in which case no update is made to the smart object layer. Or I can use menu File>Save... . When I do a save I see a message that has a progress bar that states the Smart Object is being updated . What happens is the embedded file in the smart object is updated with the changes I made to it. Once it is updated the changes are also reflected into the document containg the smart opject layer. The smar object is also still open in Photoshop which I x out of it in Photoshop. You may have to reduce the smart object Image view zoom out to be able to see the updating smart object message when you do do the save to commit the changes into the smart object. Once you update the smart object layer the embedded image file is not the original image for it now contains you new update. On my CS2, CS3 and CS5 systems I never see save opening a temp folder. I see the smart object layer being updated when I use menu File>Save...

Lightroom - Photoshop and Smart Objects

Hi there,
I've got a very general, work flow related question.
I want to open some of my Lightroom images as smart objects in photoshop to do certain changes.
The files are opened in PS as .tif and I add some layers etc.
If I now save the image, it gets re-imported in LR.
However, I seem to lose all the data like layers etc of photoshop, and I'm not sure how to prevent this.
If I close the image in photoshop, re-open the new LR image again in PS, the layers etc are gone.
What's the correct workflow to do this? (Open images from LR in PS to do adjustments, and save them back to LR)
Thanks a lot,
Christoph

When you re-open the tif file in Photoshop, choose Edit Original. What you're doing is opening with LR adjustments, causing it to create a new flattened tif.

Smart objects from Illustrator and Indesign dimensions problem

I have been trying to find an answer to this problem for 6 months now and surprised no one else has tried to find any answers.
When we import something from illustrator or indesign as a smart object, for some reason the objects width and height will not keep their dimensions in proportion.
When the asset is first imported as a smart object it says the width and height are exactly 100%. However after that if you try to change the dimensions they will be out of proportion, usually the width will be 100% but the height will be out by about 1% to begin with. When you scale up, the percentages fall further and further apart. See image attached.
This has become a real problem for our workflow as the creative director insists we must correct every layer which has this issue by typing in the sizes manually, but then this doesnt always fix the problem either depending on which version of photoshop you are using.
Why does this happen, and how can we fix it for good?
Thanks, Chris.

JJMack wrote:
SAS_Creative wrote:
When we import something from illustrator or indesign as a smart object, for some reason the objects width and height will not keep their dimensions in proportion.
I do not have the answer for I don't have illustrator and indesign. I do have Photoshop and have notice that it try to match resolutions and maintain sizes but it may also scale placed object etc. There are some some Photoshop preferences setting that can effect some operations. Photoshop also has support for non square pixels.
Make some test if illustrator and indesign have setting for pixel aspect ratio and DPI resolution. Make sure all documents have the same pixel aspect ratio and same DPI resolution and that the vector object to be imported are not larger then the Photoshop document their being imported to.
Thanks for the suggestions, but none of these would be the answer. Illustrator is Vector so it does not use DPI / Pixel aspect ratios etc.

Smart Object Irregularity

This is a bit of a "deep dive"...
I'm trying to develop a retina workflow in photoshop for web projects. In doing this I found a strange irregularity in photoshop using smart objects and Photoshop CC 2014's new asset extraction.
Essentially what is happening is that when I import an image into an already open photoshop document and make that raster image a smart object (either by importing it using the "place embedded..." option or by converting the image to a smart object after placing it) I am getting different results when I try to extract those images at 2x using the new extractor. Of course you will have to perform a transform on the image to scale it down in the photoshop document after you make them smart objects (i.e. I know that 2x of the original smart object size will still be blurry — that's not what I'm doing). The image that is converted to a smart object after it's placed saves as 2x perfectly clearly and the one that was "place embedded..." comes out blurry as if it wasn't a smart object at all.
What should I do about this? I thought these two options were different ways of accomplishing the same thing. Honestly, I like to use the "place embedded..." option because it saves me steps, but it is the one that isn't working.
Thanks,
Ethan

You may want to add your +1 and your observation on different behaviour for placed and converted SOs to this thread.
Photoshop generator not working with smart object & scaling.

"Anti-alias" greyed out when free-transforming smart objects.

While resizing smart objects, I noticed that the anti-aliasing was very contrasting and not smooth enough for my purposes. I realized that if I rasterized the smart object before resizing, the anti-aliasing was better. I then noticed that there was a setting when free-transforming smart objects called "anti-alias." However, I am unable to activate it as it is greyed out. So, here's two questions:
1) Is there a way to make the anti-aliasing for smart objects the same as that of rasterized objects?
2) Is there a way to activate that "anti-alias" setting when free-transforming smart objects?
Thanks in advance for any help you can provide

On top of what Zeno Bokor wrote that while your doing the transform your viewing a quick scaled preview not the actual transformation you wrote
The SOs I'm talking about are bitmap images I made into SOs to be able to resize and edit without destructive changes, not imported vector graphics from AI.
You did not state how you made the bitmap images into smart object. If you just converted a layer you had been working on into a smart object some damage may have already been done to the bitmap image. You might get better results if you started out with a smart object layer to begin with by using ACR open as smart object option or by placing your camera jpeg images into your document as starting points.

Convert multiple layers into separate smart objects

I have multiple layers in a document that I want to make into separate smart objects.
If I select them and choose "convert to smart object" in the Layers Panel fly out, it flattens the layers into 1 smart object.
Can it be done, or do I need to make each layer a smart object one at a time.
OR... let me back up
I have several files in Bridge, I want to "load into Photoshop layers" using the TOOLS > Batch Command BUT have each file load as a smart object.
Either way would be great!

While these don't use the batch command, take a look at
from within photoshop, File>Scripts>Load Files into Stack.
For bridge try Dr. Browns Services:
http://www.russellbrown.com/scripts.html
If you have cs5, you can drag files from mini bridge into an existing
photoshop document, for smart object layers, provided you have
your preferences under general to place or drag raster images as smart objects.
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