Incopy to InDesign font problem

Hi, I'm new to Incopy so please bear with me. I've got a layout in InDesign, and I've got a Text in Incopy (which is formatted with specific font/pt/lineheight/etc.). When I place this Incopy file into the InDesign layout, an error message pops up saying that some of the fonts could not be found and will be replaced by default fonts. What can I do in Incopy so that the correct formatting will be applied in InDesign?

The same fonts must be installed on the machine with InDesign.

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