Increasing FSB multiplier on a c2q q9550 with a p45 neo2 mobo

Is it possible to increase the FSB multiplier on my BIOS? I can only increase it until x8.5, coz im planning to OC it by increasing the multiplier and decreasing the FSB. My FSB right now is 450 MHz x 8.5 = 3.83GHz
Specs are on my sig
any help are appreciated. Thanks!

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can the i7 920 raise the multiplier to it's stock multiplier?
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Well [...], yes.
Let me be somewhat clearer on this:
This statement is still true, even for Core i7 processors:
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You would need an 'Extreme' edition of CPU to raise the multi.
The CPU Ratio of the i7 920 can raise above x20, but only to a certain extend (within the limits defined by the Intel Turbo Boost Feature for this processor). That means x21 is possible, and maybe x22 (I am not sure).
To be able to raise the multiplier to (let's say) x33, you still need an Intel Extreme Edition processor. ---> Like this one:
http://valid.canardpc.com/show_oc.php?id=748140

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Set your power savings in windows to "always on" .
Disable CnQ in Cell menu in bios .
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Well i'm kinda glad its normal, not something i'm used to. Like starting up a game to be told my system has changed all the time is a bit annoying. I did have it overclocked to 2.8GHz for awhile, which runs perfectly stable. But when the fluctuating started I got a bit concerned and put it back to stock speed... but it still does it

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Hey
Maybe someone of you can help me with this mobo. I try use fsb 500 with stable. My best @ its now 445x7,5 on my E8200
If i set 500x6 i have stable in orthox on 3-4h but if i try play game or i try use 3dmark system down.
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Maybe ist RAM problem??
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Quote from: lycanwrath on 25-December-08, 12:52:40
Hi man,
I too have problem with the GTL settings in my MSI P45 Neo2.
I do not hav sufficient GTLREF Settings on the BIOS(Not high enough)
Do u have a BIOS that can fix that?
If so can you give me the link plz.
Lycan i use now bios from oroginal msi site. its 3.3 - and on this bios i have full stable fsb 500 in auto set of course.
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I also use Hot Cpu tester Pro 4.2.2, they do have a free version as well it tests alot of different cpu instructions as well as memory simultaniously as well as doing a burn-in. Faster than Prime, nice when your overclocking since you can see what is failing sse instructions for example, then you can either up the cpu voltage or ram voltage depending on the test or back off the oc a bit.Used it alot with my old Barton 2500 rig.
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