Indesign with CALS table

Hi all,
We are in process of automating XML indesign workflow.
We need some input reg. the table handling in XML workflow.
Which type of table is good CALS or Indesign Table.
kavya

It really depends on what you're doing with the XML, and what your tool chain is. If those other tools understand CALS or InDesign out-of-the-box, that's your choice.

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[CS3][VBS]Converting a CALS table to Indesign table in XML

Hi!<br /><br />I have an xml-file with tables that I want to import into Indesign. It works fine when I use the Import CALS tables as Indesign tables in "Import options", but the problem is when I do this some emphasis elements inside the "entry" elements isn't found when I try to use XMLRules to format the emphasis elements in the document...<br />The structure of the table can be like this (in general):<br />Tabell<br /> table<br /> tblgrp<br /> tbody<br /> row<br /> <entry>Some text...<emp Type = "bold">bold text</emp></entry><br /> <entry>Some text</entry><br /> <entry>some text</entry><br /> row<br /> tbody<br /> tblgrp<br /> table<br /> Tabell<br /><br />When I import the Table as CALS tables to Indesign tables, the table structure is collapsed into just a <Tabell> element. I assume this is the reason why the <emp> element isn't found.<br /><br />I try to solve this by NOT importing CALS tables to Indesign tables. I see then that the whole table structure is intact in the structure panel and the <emp> elements are also found by the XMLRules, but the contents is not put inside a table in the indesign document. To put the table elements into a table in Indesign I use the Command: "ConvertElementToTable" but this doesnt work very well. I use it in XMLRules like this:<br /><br />Public Property Get xpath()<br />xpath = "//Tabell"<br />End Property<br /><br />Public Function apply(myXMLElement, myRuleProcessor)<br />With myXMLElement<br />.ConvertElementToTable "row", "entry"<br />End With<br />apply = False<br />End Function<br /><br />Does anyone have any experience of importing XML-tables in Indesign and formatting them? I could really need some to put the xml table into Indesign tables...Please help!<br /><br />In advance thanks!

Hi!
Just check the checkbox "Import CALS tables as Indesign tables" in the XML import options dialogbox. Then it should go automatically.
The problem with this approach is that the entire table structure is collapsed to a single table element in the struture. If one want to do some xml-prosessing at row or cell level one need to to this outside indesign or not import CALS as Indesign tables. The big question is if there is some easy way to convert a CALS table to an Indesign table inside Indesign after one have imported the data and prosessed the row and cell elements...
Hope anyone knows more than me about this....
Anyway, mkarthic, I hope my answer helped you to import your CALS tables!:-)
Greetings
Pål

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Hello,
Thanks.
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                <ta>content content content content </ta>
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            </td>
            <td align="right" valign="top">
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Complex formatting of texts inside the cells?
Complex formatting rules of table rows and/or columns?
Many images inserted?
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This may be the wrong forum to post this, but I don't know
where else I can, so I would very much appreciate if anyone
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I need to write XSLT code that will transform
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(I can't simply use the xhtml export feature. I need to
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aaaa
bbbb
cccc
dddd
eeee
ffff
into
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<tbody>
<tr>
<td>
<p class="pstyle_cell">aaaa</p></td>
<td>
<p class="pstyle_cell">bbbb</p></td>
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<td>
<p class="pstyle_cell">dddd</p></td>
</tr>
<tr>
<td>
<p class="pstyle_cell">eeee</p></td>
<td>
<p class="pstyle_cell">ffff</p></td>
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I'm struggling with a problem while reading in XML fileset through importing XSL transformation (defined in structapps).
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Earthlink wrote:
Contrary to my understanding, the <font face="courier">with_pipeline</font> procedure runs 6 time slower than the legacy <font face="courier">no_pipeline</font> procedure. Am I missing something? Well, we're missing a lot here.
Like:
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- how did you test
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If you want to find out what's going on then use a TRACE with wait events.
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http://oracle-randolf.blogspot.com/2009/02/basic-sql-statement-performance.html
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