Install ArcSDE with Oracle

Hi,
Will the regular performance of Oracle_10g be compromised if I install ArcSDE?
Will there be any noticeable changes?
Thanks.

Hi Tom,
I shall try to explain this in "laymans" terms but let me know if you need further clarification!
ArcSDE is a product that provides (amongst other things) database independence. Its sits "on top" of your database (be that SQL Server, Oracle, DB2 etc etc) and the client users do not need any of the database client software on their machines - just the Arc* software they are using to perform their GIS tasks. It is a little like ODBC except for spatial data.
When you install SDE there is a server "executable" and also a schema and some metadata tables are setup in the database. Actual SDE "layers" are created & loaded through one of the SDE client tools (ArcCatalog, shp2sde etc) that connect to the SDE server executable which then talks to the database to actually load the feature data into the database. You do not (usually) communicate directly with the database.
How SDE stores its data is configurable. For the sake of this introduction there are two main options - SDE binary & Oracle Spatial. SDE binary stores the feature data (coordinates etc) inside a "blob" in the database and is essentially for you, the DBA & database user, a black box. You can do nothing (useful) with it from SQL or other database tools. ESRI argue that this format is "better" as it is totally under their control and specifically tuned for use with SDE. The other option is to store it as Oracle Spatial (SDO geometry) which opens up a whole new world of analysis options. Your data is still available to SDE & clients exactly the same as any other SDE layer yet you also have the power of the Oracle SQL interface and all the Oracle Spatial procedures & packages. SDE is just a "wrapper" around the Oracle Spatial table. This does allow you to create additional Oracle Spatial tables and then "register" them with SDE to allow your ESRI Arc* software users to have access to them also.
I hope this helps!
Steve
PS. I do have to qualify this a little - my ESRI experience is now a bit rusty. I've not used it much in the past 18 months and I have no experience of 9.x whatsoever. The situation may now be a little different. Corrections and additions from elsewhere are welcome (and interesting for me too!).

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    Smon

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    Hi Craig,
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    Hello ,
    In the marketplace-PAM,  RedHat Enterprise 6 is not listed as approved for EHP1 Solution Manager 7.0 64 bit (unicode) with Oracle.
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    Has anyone installed the Solution Manager 7.0/Oracle with RedHat Enterprise 6?
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