Installed package size and more

first question,
how do I know the final space required by a package and its dependencies on the hard disk after the install?
cos pacman gives an info about the size of the download but thats not necessary the final space required by the installation.
second, is there a way to make pacman install a package and its dependencies into a directory, for instance to check the structure of a certain package (sort of what slackware does)

tuxman wrote:thanks everybody for the feedback.
my purpose is to analize the way a package would look into the filesystem once installed, where goes this and that file, in order to create modules for a live CD.
You need pacman -Sl support which is not implemented yet.
tuxman wrote:I have a doubt about the info given by pacman at download time yet.
Currently Pacman ouptuts only the total size of packages to be installed/upgraded.This will be changed in the future versions.
tuxman wrote:For instance, if I make pacman -Su it will download a bunch of packages, lets say 100MB but they will overwrite the existing ones, so the final space claimed on the hard disk will be less than 100MB
Or maybe I got it wrong eheheh
Hmm... this is more complicated, I doubt this will be implemented soon (if ever).
IMHO it will be enough (and easy to implement) only total size of all packages to be downloaded.
Calculating the resulting size of packages to be installed minus packages to be removed (replaced) is more complex.

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Warning: Carefully check all files. cd to the newly created directory and carefully check the PKGBUILD and any .install file for malicious commands. PKGBUILDs are bash scripts containing functions to be executed by makepkg: these functions can contain any valid commands or Bash syntax, so it is totally possible for a PKGBUILD to contain dangerous commands through malice or ignorance on the part of the author. Since makepkg uses fakeroot (and should never be run as root), there is some level of protection but you should never count on it. If in doubt, do not build the package and seek advice on the forums or mailing list.
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[EDIT: spelling]
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I would become suspicious. Of course this is an exaggeration, but common sense goes a long ways here. At least check the first time..
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