Installing OSX 10.5 On A USB Hard Drive?

Ok I am a complete newb to the mac world. I have never owned or operated a mac before this one. I have read several topics online about installing OSX on a external hard drive. My problem may be simple but I just cant figure it out. I have a western digital 300gb external usb hard drive. I have partitioned it to apm, went without a hitch. When I boot from my install media which is OSX 10.5, it sees my external as an option to install, but if selected it says that OSX can not be installed on that drive. Is there something that I am missing or doing wrong? Any help would be appreciated. Thanks

Ok great. Thanks for the reply's. It has been very helpful. And I do have the 700mhz cpu. I backed up my copy of retail OSX 10.5 DVD to a usb thumb drive and can boot successfully to the install dvd from the thumb drive. I used a program to fake the cpu speed to meet requirements of 10.5 and that worked fine. I just didnt know if I could make the iMac see the external hard drive as an internal. But I believe my question has been answered. Thank you all.

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    31/07/2012 23:35:53.000 kernel[0]: disk4s2: 0xe000c2e4 (UNDEFINED).
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    31/07/2012 23:35:53.000 kernel[0]: disk4s2: 0xe000c2e4 (UNDEFINED).
    31/07/2012 23:35:53.000 kernel[0]: disk4s2: 0xe000c2e4 (UNDEFINED).
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