Re: Consolidation and Elimination in BPC

Hello,
I like to share a scenario with you all -
We planned not to use Consolidation of Investment in BPC. Run all other eliminations; receivables/payables, revenue/expenses etc. In this case do i need to fix Percentage(%) of ownership in BPC?
Kind regards,
RJ

Hi RJ,
You need to check all the possible scenarios where you would use owership %. I have listed few below
1. COI - you are not setting this any way
2. MI Computationk
3. Good will computation
4. Intercompany elimination for JV/associates or transactions with JV or associated. - ( we eliminate only proportional % for JV's). But we will not eliminated transaction if it is associate.
5. Dividend Elimination - As MI portion of dividend paid is to be computed.
US elim is best to use, when elimination is always 100% and all the companies are consolidated using purchase method.
Hope this helps,
Kranthi

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