Invisible firewire peripherals

Hello there, I'm having a problem with my firewire peripherals. I have an external hard drive that is either USB or Firewire. If I plug it into the USB port it shows up fine if I try to plug it in via the firewire the computer wont recognize it's presence.In fact if I go to system profiler to look for it I get the spinning 'beachball of death' if I select firewire and then when I go to force quite to get rid of system profiler it is in red and shown as not responding. I have another CMS firewire external drive plus a firewire DVD writer that are also invisible. I know they all work with my iMac as I have used them regularly in the past. I have tried swapping to another firewire cable, unplugging my iMac for half and hour, resetting PRAM, VRAM. Anybody out there got any tips or had the same experience. Thanks

Make sure the one you get has it's own power. I've seen one that is bus-powered.
The one I have is from TRENDnet, and it's a combo USB/FireWire 7-port hub. For the FireWire part, it only makes one port into two ports, but I needed the USB ports more. It's a good place to connect my iPod without constantly connecting and disconnecting on my iMac's port directly.
I wonder how I'm going to find out which is the rouge firewire device without ruining anything else?
I guess you'll have to risk it on a hub. If you get a six-port FireWire hub, you'll still have five (one to four) if one of the ports becomes non-functional. If you have an old FireWire external case with a second daisy-chain port, you can also use that port for this testing (although you may lose the ability to daisy-chain off that drive).

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