IPhoto images edited in Aperture?

It is pretty easy now to open the iPhoto browser in Aperture and editing images from the iPhoto library in Aperture. Once done with the edits, however, is it possible to return the Aperture preview to iPhoto or flag the image in iPhoto to indicate it was edited in Aperture?
Thanks.

I do not use Aperture so can not test or verify this - any there may be an even better way but iPhoto can have any editing program set in the preferences as the external editor - I assume that this would include Aperture and that once you have edited in Aperture you would save (not save as) to return the photo to iPhoto and have iPhoto update the thumbnail and place the edited photo in the modified folder
To do this go to the iPhoto menu ==> preferences ==> general as set the edit photo menu to external editor and point to Aperture - double clicking on a photo (or selecting it and clicking edit ) will sent the photo to the external editor for editing - saving in the external editor will return the photo to iPhoto
I also believe that Aperture can be set to reference the iPhoto library but am not sure how that would work for letting iPhoto know that a photo had been edited - it seems like it might be a problem
Several advanced users here use both - more probably to come
Good Luck
LN
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Can I do basic image editing such as erasing stuff and copying some background and placing it over a smudge mark or whatever in Aperture?
I am using Adobe Elements 3 and Adobe Photoshop 6 (via Parallels) and they run so slow and unreliably as to practically lockup my machine.
Can I do this in Aperture or do I need to buy a new version of Elements or something?
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Thanks a bunch Jim.
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Iphoto library edit with Aperture

can I edit my iphoto library in Aperture 3? If I am using Aperture and viewing at my referenced iPhoto library and delete a photo from the iPhoto library, will that photo be deleted, or in the trash, when I open up iPhoto?

can I edit my iphoto library in Aperture 3?
No, but you can damage it.
If I am using Aperture and viewing at my referenced iPhoto library and delete a photo from the iPhoto library, will that photo be deleted, or in the trash, when I open up iPhoto?
Depends. If you don't delete the master then iPhoto will be unchanged. If you do then you'll trash the iPhoto Library
Aperture and iPhoto are entirely different applications that work in very different ways.
The only communication between the two is as follows:
Aperture is able to parse the iPhoto Library to allow it to import the contents while stacking the Originals and Modified versions, preserving metadata and so forth.
Aperture can share its Previews with the iLife apps, including iPhoto.
That's it.
So, specifically, what interaction there is between the two is designed to facilitate migration from iPhoto to the more powerful app. After that, iPhoto has exactly the same relationship to the Aperture Library as, say, Pages or iMovie.

Importing in iPhoto then edit in Aperture

hallo. I need to ask to some photo professional if the files can loose quality if I import them directly from my Canon EOS 400D to iPhoto, then I pass them to Aperture for editing or "best pictures" archive.
Can I use iPhoto as whole database and send to Aperture Library just the best pictures? Without any loss of quality?
Thank you

Are you aware that Preview has a built in slideshow function. Select a group of pictures in the Finder and open with Preview (if it is not already the default). Then do Preview > View > Slideshow.
I also use a free slideshow program called Phoenix Slides
http://blyt.net/phxslides/
When you copy pictures to iPhoto it stores a copy of the original and a copy of the currently edited version in the iPhoto Library.

Iphoto image edit and slidewhow

In iphoto, I cannot open an image for editing. I have a default to have it open in photoshop, but suddenly it does not work. Photoshop will open, but the whole iphoto library goes with it. The individual image will not open.
Also, my slideshows do not work. They show a black screen only. Help!!!!
Thank you,
Carol
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Carol,
You can move the folder wherever you want. You have to move it when iPhoto is closed. I am not sure if moving it and putting it back made this happen though.
Let's just create a new library and import the images from the old library. This should get you back in gear again. I am not sure why you are having this problem but once you have a new library we can rule out corrupt data files and see what happens.
Close iPhoto
Rename your messed up iPhoto Library to "iPhoto Library_old"
Drag this library to your desktop
Hold down the Option key and launch iPhoto
This is the window you will get
Create a new library or choose a library to open
Choose to create a new library
Once this new empty library is open it is time to import the images from your old library
Go to File>add to library
Navigate to the old library on your desktop and choose it.
iPhoto will start importing the images from your old library
This is what to expect:
Your images will be imported in nice dated rolls. (make sure your view is set to sort by rolls to see it) There are a couple of caveats to this. You will get rolls named "Originals" These rolls will contain your video clips and your original images that you had edited. If you had RAW files they would be in those rolls too (I don't do RAW, so I don't know for sure) Delete what you don't want from those rolls. You will also get the jpeg pointer files to your video clips imported. They will just be jpegs and will not point to the video clips anymore as iPhoto made new ones when the clips were imported again. You can delete those. they should be in a roll right next to the newly imported video clips so they are not hard to find. The thumbnail files don't get imported as iPhoto makes new ones when the images are imported.
Once all you images have been imported, check through the library and make sure everything looks ok.
You can now start making your Albums, and do your keywords or any other organizational steps.
You can also delete the old library on the desktop.
It is also a good time to backup this new library to CD/DVD by burning the iPhoto LIbrary folder in the Finder, or copying the iPhoto Library folder to an external drive formatted for Macs, or copying the iPhoto LIbrary folder to an iPod.
Good luck!
Lori

Badges on iPhoto images? Edited images? huh?

I am an Aperture newbie. There, I got it out right away.
I thought I had brought all my iPhoto images into the Aperture Library, but the iPhoto library appears as blue folders and albums in the Aperture Projects panel, and when I select an album, for instance, the image in the Browser and Viewer show a little tag icon (badge?) in the lower right and the metadata panel shows the master file is still in the iPhoto library.
Confusion-where is the master, really? and what are these duplicate images with the keyword "iPhoto Edited"?
I have read through the Getting Started manual and part of the full 400+ page pdf manual, no luck yet with this basic concept.

It's not really a curvy arrow-more like a vertical box, narrowing at the top, with two horizontal lines inside, and a string looking thing from the top, curving left and down. Appears as white on black, in the lower right corner of the image.
When I began using Aperture, I was sure I had brought in all my iPhoto library to live in the Aperture library, so it could back it all up with the Vault. I'll have to look at that consolidate option.
Now it makes more sense about the iPhoto edited, except the first batch of images I noticed this for, I had not touched in iPhoto other than to look at them once or twice, oh, aha, and named them, maybe that was the edit, giving them an iPhoto title.
Thanks! (PS-I tried to click 'helpful' on your message but that took me to a discussions error page)

I recently switched to Aperture. When I opened an image I imported from iPhoto, I don't have an option to edit it. Top of "Adjustments" tab says "image offline". How can I adjust Aperture so I can make adjustment to my iPhoto images?

I recently switched to Aperture. When I opened an image I imported from iPhoto, I don't have an option to edit it. Top of "Adjustments" tab says "image offline". How can I adjust Aperture so I can make adjustment to my iPhoto images?

I never tried importing from the iPhoto library as referenced images. I wonder if Aperture can access images stored in an iPhoto library package? Even if it would work, it sounds like a bad thing to do.
You might consider starting over and this time have Aperture manage the images. That will copy them to the Aperture library, leaving the iPhoto library untouched. This assumes you have sufficient space to make a complete copy of all the images in your iPhoto library plus another copy of each image that Aperture makes as the preview image. You can then back up your iPhoto library (two backup copies, just to be sure) then remove it from your hard drive when you start getting too low on space. As I write this I don't know where your iPhoto or Aperture libraries are/will be located so I'm assuming you have them on your HD.

After importing my iPhoto images to Aperture, edited RAW files render strangely

Hi,
Yesterday I imported my iPhoto 09 library to Aperture 3. I have a problem with my RAW files (from a Sony Alpha 55). I have done some edits to these photos in iPhoto 9 and these edits did carry over to Aperture. Unfortunately the resulting image looks absolutely overly contrasted, I can fix most of it by turning down the Black Clipping, which is set to about 25% of the slider. I don't remember adding black clipping in iPhoto though.
Maybe someone here knows about this problem?
Jonathan

oh, and it's iPhoto '11 not 09, sorry about that.

How are edited iPhoto pictures represented in Aperture?

Hi all,
I'm a relatively new Aperture user, and apologize in advance if the answer to my question is common knowledge. (I did my homework first, but perhaps didn't search on the right keywords.) I imported a few thousand pictures from iPhoto to Aperture, and had Aperture copy them into its library instead of referencing them from iPhoto's library. For most of these imported photos, Aperture now shows me stacks containing the "iPhoto Original" and "iPhoto Edited" pictures -- even in cases where the "edit" is as trivial as automatically rotating a picture that the camera flagged as being in portrait instead of landscape. No worries so far.
I assumed that the "iPhoto Original" was treated as an Aperture master image, and any "iPhoto Edited" copies were stored as versions in Aperture. I just had Aperture relocate the masters from this project though, and was quite surprised to see files being written to disk for both the "iPhoto Original" and "iPhoto Edited" pictures. The sizes of the files were roughly the same, which makes me think that my understanding must have been flawed. Is it the case that Aperture treats "iPhoto Edited" photos as separate masters? If so, does that mean that if I make additional edits in Aperture to an "iPhoto Edited" JPEG, Aperture will end up generating a third-generation JPEG to represent the result? (The "iPhoto Original" being the first-generation JPEG, the "iPhoto Edited" version being a copy of that JPEG, and my Aperture-created version being a copy of a copy of the original JPEG.)
I'd appreciate it if someone could let me know how things actually work under the hood.
Thanks,
Brad

It's frustrating to learn that Aperture didn't import the edited iPhoto images as versions!
Hello Brad,
I know, I wasn't happy with that either, but Aperture has no chance do that with older iPhoto libraries, short of reverse engineering. The older iPhoto versions simply did not store the edits in a non-destructive format like Aperture, just version and original pairs, and that is what Aperture will import. It's only the recent iPhoto versions that make it possible for Aperture to create master-version pairs.
When I imported my iPhoto Libraries I deleted the extra master files - depending on the edits I had done, I either kept the original or the edited version and made a backup of the iPhoto library, just in case I ever would need the second version. If you really want to invest into a newer version of iPhoto and import again, you could try to use the "Lift and Stamp tool" to copy the metadata tags you already applied to the images that you reimport to Aperture.
Regards
Léonie

IPhoto -- edited via aperture

Hi,
I am working with iPhoto and aperture, and I set up iPhoto to edit a photo (from preferences)using Aperture. I open a photo that I have imported to iPhoto, select edit, Aperture opens, and a different photo that I imported to Aperture opens. So,
1) Do I need to separately import my iPhoto pictures to Aperture prior to opening in Aperture?
2) I thought that if I clicked edit on an imported iPhoto image, that Aperture woud open that specific photo up. Then, edits are saved in Apertures library as well (of those images that I edited and changed), so iPhoto would have the original image, and Aperture the modified one.
3) What am I doing incorrectly?
Thank you
Greg

Gliese
iPhoto is an excellent application, but it's a consumer level one. Comparing it and Aperture is like comparing iMovie with Final Cut. They both edit video, and that's where the similarities end. iMovie is for the home user who knows little about the professional editing environment, Final Cut requires knowledge of that environment. iPhoto and Aperture comparisons are exactly the same. You don't need to know anything about photography with iPhoto, some knowledge is required to use Aperture. I wrote on another thread a few weeks ago: If the user is confused by iPhoto's Interface, then the developers have not done their job well, if the user is confused by Aperture's, then the User is likely in the wrong place for his/her level of knowledge.
Apart from Front Row, Aperture has the same level of integration in the OS. It does all that iPhoto does and then quite a bit more. It's targeted at the Professional User not the consumer, so
Aperture is not REALLY created from the Apple Mindset of Apple elegance and simplicity
Is correct. It's "REALLY created from the Apple Mindset of Apple..." producing Pro level applications for Professional users. Professional Users generally aren't interested in Simplicity. (Just like most users of iPhoto don't think about Exif data... or "total dpi control"). So apps such Final Cut, Logic, and Aperture are not aimed at folks who want simplicity, for those folks you have iMovie, Garage Band and iPhoto.
Of course, you offer no evidence for your assertion:
it was actually brought over by recruits from iView Media Pro, along with a lot of marketing hype.
The OP is this thread is unable to use Aperture as an external editor, because, similar to iPhoto, it's not an editor. It's a post processing application and like iPhoto, is built around a database. Neither app can process the photos without importing them. The OP needs to check out an editor for the job.
Finally, I'm curious:
I've lamented for a long time that I'd be happy to pay more for an iPhoto Pro version!
How can you lament something that you'd be happy to do?
Regards
TD

I am using Aperture 3 now and I love it. But I would like to purchase or download perhaps some freeware, easy to use photo imaging/editing software with more filters, perhaps layering etc. My Apple mentor suggests Pixelmator or Gimp ?

I am using Aperture 3 now and I love it. But I would like to purchase or download perhaps some freeware, easy to use photo imaging/editing software with more filters, perhaps layering etc. I don't want something with a very steep learning curve, getting to old for that. My Apple mentor suggests Pixelmator or Gimp ? Are there some others out there? When I was still in the Windows world, I used Photoshop Elements but that is now in my past. Any ideas?

Pixelmator or Gimp are both nice tools for advanced image processing and compositing. I.e. Gimp can do pretty much the same as Phtoshop. You might also have a look at digikam http://www.digikam.org/drupal/download/binary
Digikam is not just an advanced image processing and compositing program, it is also content management system like Aperture or iPhoto.
I also find GraphicConverter a nice tool, but it is not free.
If you want your image editing tools to integrate well with Aperture, I would look first at the available plug-ins, start with the plug-ins offered in the Aperture pull-down menu
Aperture -> Aperture Plug-ins...

IPhoto images missing in Edit window after importing iPhoto albums folder

A friend of mine with new macbook tried to import her iPhoto images from an external hardrive. She move it to her user photo album and then i believe she tried to point to it after launching iphoto. She told me there were some options windows popping up and she does not remember what they said but the current result is that many of her photos do not appear when she clicks on the thumb nails to edit them: said there is a grey field with a questin mark.
My thought was to somehow repoint to the file or dump the .plst file.
Any ideas?
Thank you,
todd

Todd
The question mark shows up when the link between the thumbnail in the iPhoto Window loses the location of the file it points to.
The most common cause of this is User activity in the iPhoto Library Folder. It is strongly advised that you do not move, change or in anyway alter things in the iPhoto Library Folder as this can cause the application to fail and even lead to data loss.
As your friend now sees.
Unless your friend nows exactly what changes she has made, I'm afraid the best way to fix this is to start again, importing from your originals folder.
There are comprehensive instructions for moving the iPhoto Library Folder in the Help, or if you need more you can most on here.
Regards
TD

Importing images edited in Photoshop into Iphoto

Hi,
I tend to use Photoshop elements and bridge as my initial repository for RAW format photos. I use Bridge and Elements to select photos for editing, and storing the edited .psd file.
I also create a jpeg copy of the finished file, which I import into iPhoto. However when I do that, iPhoto uses the date that the jpeg was created, rather than the original photo date to organise into events. Any ideas how to get it to use the original photo date, which must be in the EXIF data...
Thanks

Try importing the psd file into iPhoto and see if it will retain the EXIF date. That way you can use PSE from within iPHoto to make additional edits as follows:
Using Photoshop (or Photoshop Elements) as Your Editor of Choice in iPhoto.
1 - select Photoshop as your editor of choice in iPhoto's General Preference Section's under the "Edit photo:" menu.
2 - double click on the thumbnail in iPhoto to open it in Photoshop. When you're finished editing click on the Save button. If you immediately get the JPEG Options window make your selection (Baseline standard seems to be the most compatible jpeg format) and click on the OK button. Your done.
3 - however, if you get the navigation window that indicates that PS wants to save it as a PS formatted file. You'll need to either select JPEG from the menu and save (top image) or click on the desktop in the Navigation window (bottom image) and save it to the desktop for importing as a new photo.
This method will let iPhoto know that the photo has been editied and will update the thumbnail file to reflect the edit..
NOTE: With Photoshop Elements 6 the Saving File preferences should be configured: "On First Save: Save Over Current File". Also I suggest the Maximize PSD File Compatabilty be set to Always.
If you want to use both iPhoto's editing mode and PS without having to go back and forth to the Preference pane, once you've selected PS as your editor of choice, reset the Preferences back to "Open in main window". That will let you either edit in iPhoto (double click on the thumbnail) or in PS (Control-click on the thumbnail and seledt "Edit in external editor" in the Contextual menu). This way you get the best of both worlds
2 - double click on the thumbnail in iPhoto to open it in Photoshop. When you're finished editing click on the Save button. If you immediately get the JPEG Options window make your selection (Baseline standard seems to be the most compatible jpeg format) and click on the OK button. Your done.
3 - however, if you get the navigation window that indicates that PS wants to save it as a PS formatted file. You'll need to either select JPEG from the menu and save (top image) or click on the desktop in the Navigation window (bottom image) and save it to the desktop for importing as a new photo.
This method will let iPhoto know that the photo has been editied and will update the thumbnail file to reflect the edit..
OT

Aperture, Photoshop, and Apple's possible direction for Image Editing

All,
After using Aperture now for several days, and reading many different forum topics, in particular this one which speaks of desired enhancements to Aperture:
http://discussions.apple.com/thread.jspa?threadID=253594&tstart=0
there is one thing that really sticks out on my mind. While all of us photographers have slightly different specifics to our workflow, in general they are very similar. And with respect to Aperture, there is one huge area where most of us seem to be hitting the brick wall: image adjustments, and by extension, image file management. Let me explain what I mean.
I think it is a fair generalization to say that the vast majority of serious digital photographers are using Photoshop (or some other image editing app, but I'm just going to refer to Photoshop for convenience) for post-processing of some kind. In using Aperture, and figuring out how to fit it into workflow, we've got this situation of how to move from organization and image library management to the full gamut of image adjusting functionality (photoshop) and back again to library management. The need to use photoshop then exposes the issue of how files are stored on the filesystem, etc. Stay with me here...
I have found myself thinking, and it is pretty clearly demonstrated in the forum topic mentioned above where folks are making suggestions for improvements to Aperture, that there's this barrel people are over in knowing whether Photoshop and Aperture should live in the workflow together, or whether Aperture should (or is intended to) replace Photoshop in the workflow. This got me to thinking about the fundamental question -- what is the intent, i.e. the vision for Aperture? Is it meant to replace Photoshop, or restated, is Aperture meant to be the app in which all image adjustments are to be made, OR is Aperture meant to just ease workflow, and is it intended not to be the primary app for image adjustments, but rather integrate with the primary image adjustment app?
The reason I bring this up is that the answer to this question makes all the difference in what enhancement requests and what people should expect from Aperture now, and in future versions. If Aperture is the primary place for image adjustment, then its obvious that there are some very significant additions that need to take place to Aperture, and likewise, the issue of putting images on the filesystem becomes much less important. However, if Aperture is a workflow-easer, then such image adjustment improvements are minimally important if at all, and filesystem / Photoshop / PSD file integration becomes paramount.
I know what Aperture does, what features it provides, etc. But I can't help but realize that its not really that clear (or I just don't understand yet) what the full scope of Aperture now and in the future is intended to be, and the forum topics are pretty decent documentation of the fact that the user base at this point is fairly cloudy on that too.
I can't help thinking that in the midst of the Apple pro line of tools, where we have tools that edit: video, audio, DVD creation, text effects, and now digital photography workflow, that there's one glaring hole: static image editing, i.e. a direct Photoshop competitor. I went through the Aperture video demos before Aperture shipped, and watched these photo pros talk incessantly about how "now there's an app that addresses how I work -- Aperture". That's great, but Apple has to know the role that Photoshop plays in present photography workflow -- for those pros too. So I'm sitting here thinking to myself, why would Apple roll out such a product with some clear workflow hurdles to common Photoshop usage.
Ok, here's the punchline: does anyone else here have a sneaking suspicion that Apple is not to far off from releasing their own image editing application that's a direct Photoshop competitor? I mean come on, Final Cut Pro, Motion, Sountrack, and by extension of the CEO to Pixar, Renderman. How can you not have a static image adjustment application entering the scene at some point?
I'm curious what others think. I'm just trying to make sense of how to fit the neat stuff I see in Aperture into a workflow that doesn't play very nicely with Aperture at some points (because I'm using Photoshop).
Brad
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So Apple adds curves adjustments,
we'll need noise reduction, greater sharpening
capability, etc., etc., and then when we have all
those features, surely we'll need masking and select
capability to perform those adjustments selectively,
etc. Where does it end?
Actually that could be a good cut-off point - add a few more/better 'global' adjustments but leave all mask, selection and layer based tasks to external editors. Personally, I used to swear by curves, but haven't really touched them in PS for a year since shooting more RAW and learning how to use the shadow/highlight adjustment properly. Sometimes for overall colour for JPEGs, but that bit can be done just as well in levels.
My workflow isn't particularly typical, but here goes.
Type of photography - stitched panoramas as a professional, plus general snapshots/nature/landscape as hobby. Single user with no network storage.
Currently I use a very organised folder structure in the Finder, along with aliases in DragThing docks for easy access to final stitched files, all with their own unique ID. RAW conversions are done in ACR/PSCS2, or Bibble if I'm in a hurry on the laptop. About 40% of the panos are shot in RAW, 40% are bracketed JPEG and the remaining 20% are 'single' JPEG. The panoramas go through quite a lot of post-processing in PS using a whole series of actions and AppleScripts.
I'm expecting my workflow to look something like this:
1) Download directly into Aperture, possibly with added help from Automator/Applescript when it comes to proper date-based names.
2) Divide download into a new album for each panorama.
2a) If it is a people pano there will be quite a lot of duplicate shots for each panohead position - make a stack for each position and choose picks - this bit will speed things up enormously by itself. Reorder stacks to fit correct order of images going around the scene.
3) Export to TIFF (sometimes JPEG) and stitch using PTMac (sometimes Realviz Stitcher). Oh, and any people who think Aperture is limited, buggy and bad value should go and look at Stitcher - it costs the same, has a far more limited feature set, is on version 5 and by comparison makes Aperture look bug-free.
4) Bring stitched panorama into Photoshop to adjust seams through layers if needed, flatten, final tone adjustments (usually using shadow/highlight), possibly some colour tweaks, sharpen. For bracketed shots I will blend together the three exposures at this point using a custom action - this kind of thing is unlikely ever to make it to Aperture.
5) Bring final print-ready file into Aperture for cataloguing/backup.
5a) If file is too big for Aperture, make a smaller version for cataloguing and store original file in Finder. This gives me a good file for 90% of purposes, with the huge file available with a bit more work.
Too big? I've found that Aperture gets sluggish with files over 18-20,000 pixels wide, and chokes totally somewhere between 25,000 and 32,000 pixels wide - 'image format unsupported'.
To summarise - organise and convert in Aperture, stitch in specialist software, do PS-specific stuff then bring final image back in to join the source images.
Ian

My title and description info on my iPhoto images do not import to Aperture with the image

My title and description info on my iPhoto images do not import to Aperture 3.2 with the image. Is this just the default setting and if so, is there a way to import all the info?

Hello there, FrancesCech.
The following iPhone Troubleshooting Assistant should help with what to do with your situation:
Apple - Support - iPhone - Restore Troubleshooting Assistant
http://www.apple.com/support/iphone/assistant/restore/
Thanks for reaching out to Apple Support Communities.
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