IPVC-3540-MC03A - Settings-number of SCCP ports

This is our unit:
IPVC-3540-MC03A - software 4.0.31
EMP - ver 3.0.5 EMP
MP - ver 3.6.17 MP
Under the MCU gui, setting, the "number of SCCP ports has 3 options----0, 15, 30. I have ours set to 15. In our network we have 10 tandberg SCCP 550 and 770 units, and 2 H323 units (1 tandberg edge and 1 polycom 7000).
When I go to "conference control I can only create 12 total reserved conferences and then it says "no video bandwidth available" Is the 15 setting only for SCCP devices? If I change it to 30 can I get 30 SCCP connected calls but no h323 or set it to 0 and get no SCCP calls. The bottom line is 12 consecutvie calls is not enough for our company I need 25. What if I add another EMP?Thanks for anyones help!

You can use the same Cisco Unified Videoconferencing 3540 or 3511 MCU for MeetingPlace video integration with other SCCP video telephony endpoints, and a single IP/VC 3540 MCU can support both ad-hoc video telephony calls (SCCP controlled) and MeetingPlace H.323 conferences. In such a deployment, you allocate some of the ports on the MCU to support SCCP for video telephony and the rest of the ports to support H.323 for MeetingPlace. This dual mode is not supported on the IP/VC 3511 MCU. To support both modes with the IP/VC 3511 MCU, you would have to deploy one 3511 MCU for video telephony and a separate 3511 MCU for MeetingPlace Video Integration.
http://www.cisco.com/en/US/docs/voice_ip_comm/cucm/srnd/4x/42mtplc_ps556_TSD_Products_Implementation_Design_Guide_Chapter.html#wp1044622

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I know this question has been asked before but it needs to be asked again, as previous answers do not seem to apply.   The simple quesiton is: If you have a UCCX and if after install you check you check License information and you note that you have 150 IVR ports; how do you increase the number of ports to 300?
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Peter Buswell wrote:I know this question has been asked before but it needs to be asked again, as previous answers do not seem to apply.   The simple quesiton is: If you have a UCCX and if after install you check you check License information and you note that you have 150 IVR ports; how do you increase the number of ports to 300?
Since I see below that you mentioned that the system in question is Enhanced, the answer is simply, install on faster hardware. Presently the best hardware you can get is VMWare ESXi with the 400 Agent License OVA, which gives you 400 IVR Port Licenses.
Standard licensing works the same as Enhanced, as far as IVR Port licenses go.
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Peter Buswell wrote:I have been told that the number of ports is set by the class of the machine hardware and is not a license issue.   Others have suggested it is a license issue?
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Peter Buswell wrote:At the end of the day, however, I want a step by step procedure for adding more IVR ports to my deployment.   Even if that means buying more licenses (though I can not find a SKU).
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And for Premium, you need to purchase the SKU for a Premium Agent Seat license. It's a 1:2 ratio for agents:ports.
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Peter Buswell wrote:Before we get into a discussion of CTI ports or Call Controll Groups, let me identify that I think they are the same.
Are you saying that CTI Ports and Call Control Groups are the same? Or that CTI Ports/CCG's are the same as IVR Port Licenses? Cause the former is true, while the latter is not. Think "oversubscribed" CTI Ports.
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Peter Buswell wrote:I can create a CTI Call Control Group with 300 paths, but if I only have 150 IVR ports I am in serious trouble on the 151 call!
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Peter Buswell wrote:I had a lab system that installed under vmware with 150 ports. No matter how I tried to configure the CVA it always came up 150 ports!
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Peter Buswell wrote:I added a NFR license to my lab and magically it turned it into a 12 IVR system, so licensing does have something to do with it!
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