Is Aperture 2 as good as photoshop?!?!

Hello, i am at college and do alot of photography, we use adobe photoshop cs2 in college, i was wondering if i should get aperture 2 as a cheaper alternative, could you even compare the two. Or is photoshop in a league of its own.
Thanks much

They are completely different programs that do completely different types of work. Photoshop is an image editing program and Aperture is a digital photo organization tool. You might compare Adobe's Lightroom program with Aperture, but not Photoshop.
-Doug

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