Is calculation of variance in Process Order Mandatory
Dear PP Gurus,
I would like to know is Variance Calculation is Mandatory Befor Performing Settlement for Process Orders ,Once the Order is Technically Completed.What implications will be there if I perform Settlement Transaction(KO88) Directly with out Perfoming Variance Calculation.
Regards
Varma
as per my understanding,Varinace key in Material masster costing view controls whether order has to undergo Variance calcualtion or not before Settlement.
If Varinace key is maintained the variance is calcualted between the Target and actual paramentes.
If not, still the varince is seen in the cost analysis report.but against the Planned and actual parameters.
However you can do the Settlement without Varinace calculation.
Regards
Ratan
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IF xeipa-peinh NE 0.
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new_eipa_peinh = xeipa-peinh.
ELSE.
new_eipa_netpr = xeipa-preis.
new_eipa_peinh = 1.
ENDIF.
new_eipa_preis = xeipa-preis.
new_eipa_waers = xeipa-bwaer.
ELSE.
IF xeipa-lpein NE 0.
new_eipa_netpr = xeipa-lprei / xeipa-lpein.
new_eipa_peinh = xeipa-lpein.
ELSE.
new_eipa_netpr = xeipa-lprei.
new_eipa_peinh = 1.
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new_eipa_waers = xeipa-lwaer.
ELSE.
new_eipa_waers = xeipa-bwaer.
ENDIF.
ENDIF.
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refe2 = new_eipa_preis * old_eipa_peinh.
IF refe1 NE refe2 OR old_eipa_preis EQ 0 OR
i_allekz NE space OR old_eipa_waers NE new_eipa_waers.
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EXPORTING
date = xeipa-bedat
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IMPORTING
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wae_eipa_waers = old_eipa_waers.
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ENDIF.
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ENDIF.
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Target costs for the components and the activities are updated only once you deliver the order and the target cost for the finished product gets updated when you do the variance calculation.
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I'm getting the following error..
Message no. KV181
Diagnosis
This message tells you which quantity structure was used by the cost estimate that calculated the target costs, and which quantity structure was used in the actuals.
The cost estimate that calculated the target costs did not use the quantity structure used in the actuals.
This means that the cost estimate used a different combination of task list type, task list group, and group counter than in the order itself (such as the production order).
Example:
Suppose the target costs were calculated in the standard cost estimate for the material, and that the standard cost estimate for the material is based on the routing identified by task list type N, task list group 50000309, and group counter 1.
Now suppose the production order specifies a routing identified by task list type N, task list group 50000309, and group counter 2. This would lead to the error.
System Response
The system cannot calculate target costs for the valuation of work in process or scrap.
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Routing/master recipe in actuals differs from qty structure for target
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AnushaHi,
Please check SAP Note 386816 for error KV181.
In general it is recommended to use the Cost estimate of the Process Order (Planned Cost Estimate) for the WIP at target calculation. In additional please pay attention to SAP Note 386816 which explains this procedure and which prerequisites must be met to calculate WIP at targets or the scrap variance. Even if the group counter of the routing is different you can still calculate WIP at targets but only if the message type of message KV181 is set to SPACE by Customizing settings.
Hope this will a bit help to you.
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But client saying orders were settled and no variances existing prior to COPA implementation.
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1. The orders are created prior to COPA Implementation and they were settled as well long back. After COPA implementation why system calculating variances once again.
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It should be settle the process orders before COPA implementations and find below my answers point by point.
1.System will not calculate again variance, once you settle the process orders, you can close the orders, so it will improve the system efficiency and system will those orders in future to calculate the variances.
2.are u try to close the order, if it is settle the order, system will allow to close the order or vice-versa.(T.code-ask PP consultants).
3.i have mentioned clearly, previous reply,it should not be open orders.
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In Process order, after deliver of FG the target cost is not getting calculated,
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I have configured all setting for WIP and VarianceHi,
Target costs are only calculated after goods movements have occured on the order, the Target Costs are then calculated during the Variance calculation.
Target costs will only be calculated after the first goods receipt has been posted to the order. Also you have to ensure that the information to calculate target costs exists on the system in particular in OKV6.
This estimation is based on the customizing for the Target cost version in transaction OKV6 as in turn will the "real" calculation of the Target costs via the variance calculation.
So in OKV6 the Target cost will be based on preliminary costing on the order, an alternative cost estimate or the current standard cost estimate. Importantly if the choosen option is not fulfilled e.g. no current standard cost estimate, the target costs will not be predicted or calculated.
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We have a problem when we are trying to close process orders in Release 4.6C; We are unable to close those orders and the error messages would be variances are not settled and balances still exist.
When we try to modify the periodic settlement in process order settlement rule it gets grayed out and wont let us do any modifications. Some body suggested that we have to make the settlement rule to FUL and then try to close but it never works. It's a problem for quite sometime, any help would be worth more than an appreciation.
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RamanaHi Ramana
You need to more specific on the errors and the description of the process where you are finding the problem
Eloborate your problem like what is the settlement type now, whether you have done the variance calculation, what is the status of the order now (TECO, DLV etc.,)
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Here is process order scenario
In that i am doing variance calculation for one order
but it is giving message that "no order could be processed "
Plz guide me what could be reason
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regards
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Before doing variance calculation check your order status it must be DLV status.
1. After Final Confirmation of Order (Status: CNF) make GR for order using T.code: MIGO / MB31 so Production Order Status will be DLV.
2. Then complete the order technically by using T.code: CO02--> Functions (Menu)---> Restrict Processing -
> Technically Complete. You can carry out TECO for multiple Orders in T.code: COHV (Mass Processing).
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