Is it safe to dissect proprietary installers?

I've been working on 2 PKGBUILDs today: maya2014 (just modified mihaim's maya2013's PKGBUILD) and mudbox2014 (based it upon maya2014)
Their respective *.tgz (from the official website) contain the following files:
Autodesk_Maya_2014_SP1_English_Linux_64bit.tgz (link)
+EULA
+InstallGuides
+resources
+support
-Composite_2014[...].rpm
-INSTALL
-MatchMover2014[...].rpm
-Maya2014[...].rpm
-adlmapps7-7.0.51-0.x86_64.rpm
-adlmflexnetclient-7.0.51-0.x86_64.rpm
autodesk_mudbox_2014_sp1_efgj_linux_64bit.tgz (Link)
+EULA
+InstallAndLicenseGuides
+resources
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-MudboxConfig.pit
-adlmapps7-7.0.51-0.x86_64.rpm
-adlmflexnetclient-7.0.51-0.x86_64.rpm
The problem are these 2 packages:
-adlmapps7-7.0.51-0.x86_64.rpm
-adlmflexnetclient-7.0.51-0.x86_64.rpm
Both maya2014 and mudbox2014 provide them and depend on them.
But if you install one of them and then try to install the other one, there would be conflicting files
If I was to remove the conflicting files in one of them, then the user would be forced to install both.
So, I decided to make -adlmapps7-7.0.51-0.x86_64.rpm and -adlmflexnetclient-7.0.51-0.x86_64.rpm into separate packages, so that Maya and Mudbox install them separately as dependencies, and that way one's free to install either Maya or Mudbox, or even both, without having to worry about conflicting libraries.
So, my question is the following:
Would I get into trouble with Autodesk if I distributed (submitted to the AUR) parts of its installer?
Isn't that what's already being done by having maya2013 in the AUR?
I hope I can have an answer soon, from anyone, because I already installed maya2014 and mudbox2014 in my system, working properly, and I want to share the PKGBUILDS
Last edited by NiteiaTt (2013-06-21 13:09:07)

I'm mostly just confused by this post, can you post links/references to the tools, packages, software, etc that you are referring to? Anyhow, I'm really just posting to respond to the following:
NiteiaTt wrote:Would I get into trouble with Autodesk if I distributed (submitted to the AUR) parts of its installer?
Only autodesk's copyright holder can actually answer that definitively. To get a good idea you'd have to read their license agreement - but without specifying here what the license is - other than that it is a proprietary license - no one here could tell you anything.
Perhaps I've been "spoiled" by open source licensing practices - but, while I have no problem with proprietary license, when a large company's website has page after page on the importance of license compliance and brags about their license compliance department and advertises what they'll do if you violate their license, etc, etc - but they don't actually let you *read* the text of their license ... I'd run far and fast from that. If they want people to comply with rules, they need to be less cryptic about what those rules actually are.
Last edited by Trilby (2013-06-21 01:59:30)

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