Is the tiff image sequence in premiere pro cs4 lossless?

is the tiff image sequence export in premiere pro cs4 lossless or lossy?

Hi,
Yeah, that IS an interesting question...When I looked into the quality exported individual frames I stuck it into photoshop and looked at the mode and image size to see what I was getting ...
I was kinda ( am still very ) impressed with the quality of the individual images Premiere exports in it's sequences.. and I suppose you could say it is lossless but in part that would be referenced to , " Lossless compared to what ? "
If I put TIFF images into the timeline to begin with and then got them out again, then it would probably be lossy depending on ppi going in. It's like 72 coming out.
But anyway, the quality is pretty darn good, I have to say...when you export TIFs...
Rod

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This is a forum. None of the users here -at least not to my knowledge - are Adobe professional
Ninety-nine point nine percent correct. We are blessed with a few Adobe employees here, unlike some fora, but those folk are probably at NAB right now. Also, they are in other departments, so would have to walk "down the hall," or make a call, just as we would.
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Bless me folks, for I have sinned, it has been a few years since my last video project and it was done using Premiere 6. I now have CS4 Production Premium. In Premiere 6, when I wanted to bring images into the timeline i would create them in photoshop and save them as 720 x 540 bmp files.
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It seems that there isn't one solid answer on this subject. The thread that I linked to was started 2 years ago, and replied to just 4 ago, so it's relatively current.
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posted by futball8:
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One can only assume that simply re-naming the extension from .mod to .mpg works in some circumstances, and doesn't work in others. I assume it depends largely on the editing software being used. Perhaps there are still issues that futball8 was simply unaware of or never encountered.
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(posted 5 months ago)
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about any format into just about any other format.
ffmpeg is an open source project from the linux world, but it has
been ported and is supported on windows. Fetch it here and place it somewhere handy
on your system.
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that doesn't make applications die, WITHOUT rerendering video or audio
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around unmodified video and audio data, yielding a file which works much
more stably with Adobe applications, and presumably others as well, as
ffmpeg's open source development goals result in very standards
compliant files.
(posted 5 months ago)
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All of the things that I've quoted here came from the same thread, so I don't know how accurate any of this is, but the people that have posted these things seem fairly knowledgeable. If someone reads all of this and can confirm or deny any of it, it would be much appreciated.
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The next troubleshooting step was to start afresh, and see if the problem existed prior to making any edits to the sequence (i.e. steps 1-3 above). The problem still existed.
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I took a wedding video from 1990 on a VCR tape and turned it to digital via a Dazzle hardware unit that plugs into the computer. It gives me vob files with no menus or anything like that
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Most other equipment and workflows are kludges and seldom work at any level.
A good workman does not blame his tools. He might blame his choice of tools, but not the tools. Unfortunately, you chose a piece of hardware that doesn't usually work with the included software, and are blaming a great NLE program, because you are trying to work with horribly bad footage.
Please do yourself a favor. Donate the Dazzle to Goodwill, and look at the Canopus/Grass Valley 110. The price differential is not that great, and you will keep all of your hair.
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PPS, please see my post #5 for a link to an article on VOB files.
Message was edited by: the_wine_snob Added PPS

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C'mon Adobe...it's not like you're busy working on CS4 anymore. After all, the release of CS5 is only ONE YEAR AWAY!!! GO GO GO!!!
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