Photoshop image size for Premiere Pro CS4 project.

Bless me folks, for I have sinned, it has been a few years since my last video project and it was done using Premiere 6. I now have CS4 Production Premium. In Premiere 6, when I wanted to bring images into the timeline i would create them in photoshop and save them as 720 x 540 bmp files.
My question is, in Premiere CS4, what size should I make my photoshop files? I want the final movie to take up most of a wide screen hdtv with a minimal amount of bars at the top and bottom. I want my images to appear clearly and the text on the images to appear clearly on screen. I will be creating a dvd and or blu ray, whichever works, and I may eventually want to output the movie for the web as well.
So ... what new width and height and file type should I use for my photoshop files? They all need to be the same size because sometimes I use several consecutive photoshop files to show movement on screen because I have not learned how to use after effects yet.
Any help appreciated.

Thanks for the info Dennis. The reason that the size matters to me is that I want a clear quality picture on the hdtv screen. And with my primitive jibjab-like moving picture technology, I need each image to be the same size so that things move around the screen exactly where I want. I know that if I start off with a small image size it will look terrible onscreen, so your 1920 x 1080 suggestion is probably what I am looking for.
I think i used the bmp format in Premiere 6 for performance reasons, but it sounds like maybe performance using psd files has improved with cs4.
I appreciate the jump-start.
-Mark

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I've been looking for quite a while on Adobe's help pages, these forums, and also the PDF manual, but can't find the info I'm looking for.
I'm moving from Final Cut Studio to the Adobe suite of video production for various reasons. I've purchased (though not yet received) the Production Premium upgrade. I have a new project I'm starting, and want to correctly size my images for Premiere Pro. For instance, Final Cut Studio has this handy chart:
The video sequence frame size
If you are using this format                               is                    Use graphics with this frame size
CCIR 601 NTSC 4:3                                  720 x 486                             720 x 547
CCIR 601 NTSC 16:9 anamorphic               720 x 486                             853 x 486
DV NTSC 4:3                                            720 x 480                             720 x 540
DV NTSC 16:9 anamorphic                        720 x 480                              853 x 480
CCIR 601/DV PAL 4:3                               720 x 576                              768 x 576
CCIR 601/DV PAL 16:9 anamorphic            720 x 576                             1024 x 576
720p HD                                                  1280 x 720                            1280 x 720
1080i or 1080p HD                                   1920 x 1080                          1920 x 1080
So for a standard 4:3 DV NTSC video, I make my still images 720 x 540 pixels. 16:9 anamorphic, 853 x 480.
For whatever reason, this type of information is completely missing in the manuals for CS5.5. I did however find this information related to Premiere Pro 4:
4:3 DV (NTSC) or ATSC SD—create and save the square-pixel file at 720x534.
4:3 D1 (NTSC)—create and save the square-pixel file at 720x534.
4:3 DV or D1 (PAL)—create and save the file at 788x576.
16:9 DV (NTSC)—create and save the file at 864x480.
16:9 D1 (NTSC)—create and save the file at 872x486.
16:9 DV or D1 (PAL)—create and save the file at 1050x576.
16:9 1080i HD—create and save the file at 1920x1080.
16:9 720p HD—create and save the file at 1280x720.
So did this apply to CS5.5 as well? Meaning if I'm creating a standard 4:3 DV NTSC video, my still images should be 720 x 534, and 16:9 anamorphic 864 x 480? Not quite sure what the distinction is between DV and D1, other than the anamorphic sizes are different.
I also know these are different from Final Cut Studio. In Apple's manuals, they come right out and say the pixel sizes FCS uses for stills are different from most video editing software. So I'm not surprised to see 720 x 534 for for 4:3 NTSC in Premiere Pro rather than Apple's size of 720 x 540.
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The list is valid if you save the file in square pixels.
However, I believe there is an easier way if one has
Photoshop.
In Photosohop, you can change the image pixel
aspect ratio directly. The drop down for that parameter lists common video formats.
Change the PAR first (e.g., 1.33) and then, using the crop tool set for the frame dimensions, e.g., 1440 x 1080. Save the file. Premiere will recognize the image format. There's no reason to keep track of what the square pixel frame size is.
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Yeah, that IS an interesting question...When I looked into the quality exported individual frames I stuck it into photoshop and looked at the mode and image size to see what I was getting ...
I was kinda ( am still very ) impressed with the quality of the individual images Premiere exports in it's sequences.. and I suppose you could say it is lossless but in part that would be referenced to , " Lossless compared to what ? "
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also wondering if a notebook with a drive that's only 5400 rpm would be acceptable if I'm also using an eSata?
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And even if you plan to upgrade to CS5.5, that laptop suffers from several limitations:
1) The i5-2410M, like all other mobile i5 CPUs, is only dual-core. And given that no desktop dual-core system performs as well as even a mediocre quad-core system, the dual-core laptops will likely be even slower than most of the desktop dual-core systems.
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3) Because mobile hard drives are typically slower-performing than their desktop counterparts, consider an SSD instead as the laptop's system drive. But then, you'd have to put up with only one eSATA port and two USB 3.0 ports to connect an external hard drive.
4) The GeForce GT 525M is barely adequate for CS5.x (if you choose to upgrade Premiere Pro to the latest version): It uses only DDR3 memory (current fast GPUs use (G)DDR5 memory), and it has only 96 CUDA cores. As such, it would be nearly two times slower than a fast mobile GPU.
5) Dell often includes a fair amount of bloatware pre-installed on their systems - and the bloatware seriously degrades system performance. What's more, some of that bloatware cannot be easily uninstalled - and some parts of the bloatware are left on the system to screw up overall system performance even if the main bloatware apps are uninstalled.
Put them all together, and you might very well end up with a system whose overall performance ranking is at or very near the very bottom of the PPBM5 results list on the PPBM5 site. In fact, even if you use CS4 and run PPBM4, your ranking would still be very near the bottom of the PPBM4 results list on the PPBM4 site.

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Tam,
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PCM (Pulse Code Modulation) is a method of encoding analog audio, turning it into a digital signal. This applies to both computers and separate components (CD players, DAWs, most cameras). It is the codec CDs use. It is also the standard for DV. Even most WAV files contain PCM audio.
http://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Wav
http://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Pulse-code_modulation

Format of file Exported by SDK Exporter plugin for premiere pro cs4

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Zac do you have any charts on what the pixel formats each filter supports?
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Thanks for the help guys.. Importing the file works but it only gives me a big long sequence clip of my friends work and it seems to be all over the place.. What I need is the exact layers etc from my friends file.. How can I do that?
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The only times I have seen BSOD's with Win7 was when pushing the limits with overclocking. XP and Vista were not as stable, I admit that.
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AVCHD or HDV for Premiere Pro CS4?

Hi,
I have a P4, 2.8Ghz, 2G Ram with XP Pro. I hear rumblings that AVCHD is kinda a nightmare with Premiere CS4 in terms of playback stutter. Ultimately I want the least frustrating editing experience I can have with PPCS4. I'm prone to punching my desk if things get too bogged or buggy while dealing with software so I guess my question is this: Would PPCS4 be happier with AVCHD or HDV given my system?
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Matt,
I had a heftier machine than that and AVCHD was completely unworkable. As mentioned, you need some serious horses if you're going to do HD.
Based on a lot of excellent advice here (meaning solid, useful info even if it wasn't what I wanted to hear) I bought a heftier box and CS4 / AVCHD works just dandy now.
If you can't afford a new box, I'd convert your footage to SD and work in that format, or you'll have bloody knuckles from punching your desk all day.
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