IS-U and eSOA

Hi
can anyone have idea about how IS-U(Utilities) and eSOA (Netweaver PI) integrated to communicate between different roles in the deregulated Market..
Ex: Requesting Technical Masterdata in Utilities industry..
where it involves Fornt office agent(IS-u), call center agent(CRM), Metering Admin(Web services-XI), Meter Admin(Web portal -XI)
Rgds
Rahul

Hi,
quite hard to tell - just as a guess - please check the number ranges you are using. For SD it has to be external number ranges. I think there are some messages regarding this SD part already in here - please check.
KR
Uwe

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Need Key Differences between SOA and ESOA

Hi,
I am beginner for ESOA. Could any one please let me know the key differences between SOA and ESOA?
Thanks in advance.
Regards,
Gopi.

Hi Gopinath,
Please refer the following thread for the important info and Difference between SOA and ESOA.
What is ESOA?
Thanks,
Ram.
Edited by: Ramakrishna kopparaju on Sep 2, 2008 10:59 AM

Need Guidance from SOA and ESOA Experts

Hi Everybody.
Good Morning.
I have good experience in JAVA and J2EE.
i am going to work in Services team.
i am new to the SOA and ESOA Concept.
Please tell me, what would be the right approach to know the basics of SOA and ESOA.
Please tell be some books and links which would useful for the same.
Please dont redirect to some other links in forum...(am unable to find the source information when passing thru those links
Thanks in advance.

IN which role are you going to work in Service Team?
If you are Service Designer you have to know following things
1. Responsible for placing service reference documents in the Registry (WSDL and XSD) / Repository (usage scenarios annotated with non-functional requirements...)
2.Reconcile candidate service interfaces with existing infrastructure and identify missing pieces (e.g. mainframe service enablement)
3.Analyze all candidate service interfaces and check for gaps, inconsistencies or redundancies (e.g. overlapping service boundaries)
4.Match technical solutions to outlined design constraints (e.g. WS-Security to solve integrity and confidentiality constraints)
5.Formalize Service Descriptions into WSDL, XSD, etc
6.Work with Application Architect and Data Architect to ensure consistency with existing XML data formats and conventions
7.Create virtualized end points in the SM to be used in the Registry
8.Define policy in SM in collaboration with the Application Architect and IT Security
9.When changing the interface for pre-existing services, the Service Designer is responsible for defining appropriate elements (e.g., namespaces, versioning, and content based routing) that facilitate simultaneous deployment of multiple versions of the service
10.Responsible for ensuring compliance with published WS-Basic Profile
If you are a service developer you will do the following responsibilities
1. Identify (in collaboration with the Application Architect) and document the design patterns that will be used in implementing the service
2.Participate in creating recommendations for the WS implementation framework (e.g. WAS, RAD) Participate in design and code reviews
3.Implement services (by means of a specific development language and design pattern(s))
4.Successfully execute unit tests created by Service Tester(s)
5.Other services should be leveraged as appropriate with any direct data access designed in cooperation with the DBA and the Data Architect
6.Document service implementation
7.Responsible for re-factoring and regression testing when changes are made to an existing service
8.Ensure all relevant implementation related documentation is placed into the service repository
If you are a service tester you will do following things
1. Develop test plans and associated test cases for both unit tests and integration tests for services and service groups, using a web services specific testing tool
2.Ensure successful unit test completion prior to elevation to the Integration environment
3.Ensure successful integration test completion prior to elevation to the System Test environment
4.Ensure SLA performance metrics are met prior to elevation to Production environment
5.Ensure test results are logged
6.Ensure defects identified through Integration and System Test environment testing are communicated to the Service Implementer(s) and Service Designer(s) for the involved services, as well as to the Application Architect [ Only integration tests should fail since unit tests were confirmed prior to elevation to integration environment ]
7.Test for interoperability and other standards conformance
If you are a SOA Architect you WILL
1.Understand application design, SOA technologies, database and data warehouse design, network design, and the many other aspects of information technology
2.Responsible for documenting patterns that support SOA
3.Responsible for end to end service requestor and provider design
4.Responsible for stating non-functional service requirements
5.Responsible for the recommendation of the architectural framework, its maintenance and communication to Application Architects
6.Responsible for adherence to architectural frameworks
7.Ensure appropriate computational and data capacity are accounted for Know the capabilities of current technologies and work with business to recommend the best technologies to achieve the units strategic goals
8.Work with business units to evaluate software options from an investment point of view
9.Help business to obtain predictable benefits and recommend organizational and SDLC process changes depending on the recommended architecture
10.Work closely with Business Analysts to carefully consider business processes across business units; with the goal to reduce overall cost and improve effectiveness
11.Endeavor to stay abreast of emerging technologies and make appropriate recommendations for changes and additions to the enterprise architecture
12.Support change management impact analysis
13.Defines the standard naming conventions to be used for managed services
14.Plays a key role in defining the various enterprise architectural frameworks to be utilized
15.Responsible for defining, and ensuring adherence to application architecture framework guidelines and communicating them to the Application, Information and Data Architects etc.
16.Define work flow and approval process for service additions and changes to be made to the Registry
17.Responsible for identification of services and definition of service interfaces
18.Mediate between business and technology
FINALLY,
if you stick with a SOA enabled tools guy and try to learn SOA around it, you will remain a blind SOA guy.
SOA is an architecture approach which allow us to do IT enablemenet of business using loose couples services which can be defined by INTERFACES.
SOA introduce a new layer into enterprise architecture which enforce partially and fully following concepts
1. Enterprise Service Bus (ESB), provide mediation, routing, transformation, translation of interface messages between service consumer and provider. Examples of ESBs are Netweaver XI, IBM Websphere 6.0 ESB, BEA Aqualogic, TIBCO's business works.
2. Enterprise Service Registry: This tool provide SERVICe goverance views by providing a place for create/admin and manage service policies. Service policies are applied to service in different phase of service life cycle such as service plan, design, build, deploy and manage. Some examples of service registry are XI registry, Systinet from HP, WSSR from IBM. All registries has to follow UDDI specifications
3. Service Repository: A unified place holder for service metadata and artifacts. Service artifacts are generally based on Object Management Groups Reusable Asset Definition. Some good example of service repository are XI repository, WSSR, Systinet etc
4. Service Management framework. This is the tool manage the deployed services using service management framework. Examples IBM Tivoli SOA manager, HP SOA manager, XI Run time work Bench etc
Please do not try to learn SOA with respect to a tool. Learn SOA as an Architecture displine to build solution using implementation independent interfaces with supporting contracts and data.
WEB Services, XML, XSD, ESB, Registry, Repository etc are just frameworks supporting SOA concept, it is not really SOA. You can do SOA with CORBA AND IDL if you want.
SAP, IBM, HP, BEA, TIBCO, ORACLE etc are companies building tools using SOA frammework enabled technologies. A tool is not SOA, it is just using SOA as a foundation for thoughts.
When you learn SOA, think outside the BUNN
Thanks

Demand Planning and eSOA

I am an SCM consultant, with particular interest in Demand Planning.
I am experienced with SAP APO, but am now interested in how the emerging eSOA environment can help with Demand Planning solutions.
Can anyone share thoughts/experiences of how web services in general and SAP eSOA in particular can provide 'added value' to Demand Planning?
Thanks,
Bob Austin, Atos Origin

Generally speaking, the demand plan or forecast is ultimately the "image" of the demand side that the supply side wishes to "mirror" or fulfill against. This view is a consolidation of many views from several players on the demand side -- whose input is provided to a much smaller group of planner-users of the Demand Planning tool.
What eSOA does is to essentially extend the Demand Planning process to this larger audience via a number of means:
The new Duet/Excel capability is one example of this extensibility. Think of all the spreadsheets that are being used to do <i>something</i> associated with the demand management process that you can now start to inject some process discipline and control into.
Another example is the ability to integrate with tools like 3rd party sales force automation or channel partners across mobile devices, etc. Because eSOA decouples the interaction layer from the data itself, I now have greater flexibility to extend and collaborate across an increasingly fragmented "demand chain" and different types of users and devices. The opportunity to add value requires some analysis and creativity -- but we are in the age of user-driven innovation and eSOA is designed for this "self service" paradigm.
Hope this helps.

Difference between soa and esoa

Hi,
What is the difference between SOA AND ESOA.
Regards
Abhay

Hi
In a nutshell, ESOA are simply Web services that provide enterprise-level business functionality.They may range from very simple lookup services (like finding a companys location or product offerings) to more complex and composite services but what they have in common is that theyre highly integrated into your process or application.Typically ESOA are high-level components that take more granular Web services and aggregate them into reusable elements with business value. For example, take the service Cancel Purchase Order. An elementary Web service like Delete Purchase Order would simply lead to the deletion of a purchase order in the corresponding database. However, if the stated goal is cancel purchase order, the service has to become a more far-reaching enterprise service that handles this process end-to-end, and therefore has to trigger a number of follow-up actions, including:
=> Check against production orders
=> Check against a corresponding billing process
=> Update of inventory/warehouse information Or consider the Credit Limit Check
service, which at first glance seems to be quite simple. Normally, this service is one ingredient of the Order Creation service. But typically, credit checking is
really a more elaborate composite service.
5 Key Principles of ESOA
1. Abstraction hiding confusing details
2. Modularity breaking down complexity, resulting in reusable pieces
3. Standardized connectivity enabling flexible composition of services to
create bigger processes and scenarios
4. Loose coupling allowing for separate evolution of the various components
without breaking any points of integration
5. Incremental design enabling changes to composition and configuration
without affecting the interior of components, and vice versa
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ASAP and eSOA: fit or non-fit ?

When implementing SAP ERP including the likes of CRM and SRM we use package based implementation (PBA) methods, techniques and tools - often based on the 'old' Accelerated SAP (ASAP). With the SAP environment now rapidly turning to eSOA supported by the Netweaver platform, will this still be the right way to go ? SAP eSOA implementations seem to have a lot in common with Custom Software Development (CSD). Should we then turn to methods, techniques and tools used for CSD methods as well ?
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>>ASAP and eSOA: fit or non-fit ?
in my understnading ..
ASAP is a methodology (it covers various phases of your work, like blueprinting/prototyping, realization/implemenation, releasing/going live etc) it can be applied to any project, whether SAP or nonSAP, eSOA or non-eSOA. it provides accelarators with ready-to use templates for requirement gathering, presentations, testcases etc.
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in my experience,ASAP and eSOA are fit when used together.. provided we are clear with objective of each of them.
ofcourse they cannot be compared with each other.
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To sony playstation read this....ESO....crowns and ESO plus

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Well you managed to register so it wont be a shock to find that on the website are telephone numbers you can ring Sony on. Also as you're quoting euros, they have given you the link to the US site in error. Anyway
You can reach us on: 0203 538 2665
08:30 to 20:30 Monday to Friday
10:30 to 19:00 Saturday
Before calling please make sure that you have access to your PlayStation system and that you have noted down the serial number. This will help us answer your questions as quickly as possible.

ROI and ESOA

How can I determin a ROI of a ESOA-Implementation?

Hi blue ,
I got some useful information from a survey...
A study shows that SOA can be understood in two ways.
First, few companies understand SOA primarily as an IT-centric topic. Drivers to adopt SOA can be found in benefits that concern technology productivity and organizational improvements.
Second,The another group of companies considers SOA as a businessdriven paradigm and, therefore, adds strategic measures and business processes to the technical perspective of the first definition.
For the majority of the participating companies, investment decisions were based not only on ROI calculations. Strategic decisions were the main driver for SOA initiatives within the analyzed sample. Various approaches to quantify costs and benefits for the IT organization, business processes, and strategy could be defined. These measures are structured in the presented frameworks, which can
serve as blueprints for other companies to enhance the understanding of cost and benefit categories in SOA business case calculations.
The following nine critical success factors of SOA were identified:
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■ Adequate communication and culture
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■ Highly qualified project members with business and IT backgrounds
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Flikering screen windows 8.1 and ESO game

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Difference between ESOA and SOA Middle ware

Hi All
Can anybody explain me the difference between ESOA and SOA Middle Ware?
Thanks
SIM

Hi SIM,
SOA and ESOA are not middlewares.
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SOA is Service Oriented Architecture
ESOA is same as SOA with some business semantics which is initiated by SAP to reduce the complexity of business process and problems.
Middleware is any tool which is used to integrate different technologies and platform like XI .
XI is a middleware tool which supports SOA and ESOA. I.e by using SOAP adapter you can expose web services which can have business meaning also.
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Is PI 7.1 Fully compatible with SOA guidelines and principles.
or Are there any features/functionality that is only partially or not inline with SOA guidelines and principles. If there are such, can you pls tell me.
Thanks,
Mani.

Hi,
PI 7.1 is fully compatible with SOA framework. but SOA is framework and PI 7.1 is a product. considering PI just as a product; it has several integration capabilitits beyond working just an service consumer/provider.
You can use the PI as seperate product, but for SAP framework ESOA, PI is one of the sore component.
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In simple terms, PI and SOA can work as inter dependent and also can work individually.
Considering ESOA, PI 7.1 has majore role and ESOA framework must need PI 7.1, so ESOA framework is dependent on PI 7.1 but viceversa is not possible.
Thanks
Swarup
Edited by: Swarup Sawant on Sep 22, 2009 1:20 PM

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We are trying to provide integration between SAP E-Sourcing and SAP ECC via the SAP GUI for HTML. From an E-Sourcing project, we should define a link which will link us to the report via SAP GUI for HTML. Some parameters are automatically transferred via the URL so that the report will be prefiltered.
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Bram

Dear Chong,
I have came across the following information about SAP GUI For HTML
With the version 7.02 / 7.20 of the NW Application Server
the SAP GUI for HTML has been completely
reworked.
1.The rendering is now based on Unified
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2.Similar Look & Feel as other UI technologies
3.Better Portal integration
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Hi sap Peoples,
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Thanks&Regards
Raja Mohamed.

Hi,
There is a separate forum for Enterprise SOA in SDN.
In the simlar way we have Exchange Infrastructure
under SAP NetWeaver.
These are some of the Links for SOA and ESOA:
Look at the following links for basics of ESOA:
SAP Architecture Enterprise SOA Basics
SDN - Enterprise Service-Oriented Architecture
Enterprise SOA
Enterprise Service-Oriented Architecture
ESA = SOA + ES ?
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Enterprise Services differentiate Enterprise SOA from plain SOA
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EA and ESOA: Relationship Part 2
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What is ESA (Enterprise Services Architecture) ?
ESA vs SOA
Difference between soa and esoa
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/people/santosh.v/blog/2007/04/23/what-is-soa
ESA = SOA + ES ?
/people/kevin.liu/blog/2005/10/17/esa-soa-es
This pdf
https://www.sdn.sap.com/irj/sdn/go/portal/prtroot/docs/library/uuid/a0f82bc4-8d37-2a10-abad-e9d169ab4a9a
https://www.sdn.sap.com/irj/sdn/go/portal/prtroot/docs/library/uuid/50526bda-4e9a-2910-61ba-e9036a7914e4
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Reg ESOA certification

Hi All,
I am preparing for CERTIFIED ASSOCIATE SAP ENTERPRISE ARCHITECT certification with ESOA 100 and ESOA 200.
Can anyone provide me the link for getting VM100 , EA100 and SOA010 materials.
I tried searching the forum too but with little luck.
Also if anyone had attended the above exam,kindly share the experience.
BR,
Krishna.

Hi,
For SOA lot of stuff available in form of articles and blog on SDN and standard SAP presentation which will cover SOA100 part to certain extent.
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