Need Key Differences between SOA and ESOA

Hi,
I am beginner for ESOA. Could any one please let me know the key differences between SOA and ESOA?
Thanks in advance.
Regards,
Gopi.

Hi Gopinath,
Please refer the following thread for the important info and Difference between SOA and ESOA.
What is ESOA?
Thanks,
Ram.
Edited by: Ramakrishna kopparaju on Sep 2, 2008 10:59 AM

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Difference between soa and esoa

Hi,
What is the difference between SOA AND ESOA.
Regards
Abhay

Hi
In a nutshell, ESOA are simply Web services that provide enterprise-level business functionality.They may range from very simple lookup services (like finding a companys location or product offerings) to more complex and composite services but what they have in common is that theyre highly integrated into your process or application.Typically ESOA are high-level components that take more granular Web services and aggregate them into reusable elements with business value. For example, take the service Cancel Purchase Order. An elementary Web service like Delete Purchase Order would simply lead to the deletion of a purchase order in the corresponding database. However, if the stated goal is cancel purchase order, the service has to become a more far-reaching enterprise service that handles this process end-to-end, and therefore has to trigger a number of follow-up actions, including:
=> Check against production orders
=> Check against a corresponding billing process
=> Update of inventory/warehouse information Or consider the Credit Limit Check
service, which at first glance seems to be quite simple. Normally, this service is one ingredient of the Order Creation service. But typically, credit checking is
really a more elaborate composite service.
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1. Abstraction hiding confusing details
2. Modularity breaking down complexity, resulting in reusable pieces
3. Standardized connectivity enabling flexible composition of services to
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Hi,
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After spending good 7 years in SAP related projects recently I started working in ORACLE Applications. I used to be an ORACLE programmer years back. To my surprise the same ORACLE Forms are still very much the heart of the ORACLE UI.
Then I thought what will be the key differences between ORACLE and SAP in terms of configuration elements. While I know a bunch of configuraion items in SAP , I am not sure about the same in ORACLE world. I am not even sure some of the configuration items that are available in SAP exists in ORACLE.
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Genie,
I agree that a case is made on how well these two ERPs solve the day to day tasks before a company chooses one of these two. But my question is aimed at finance to begin with. You are going to need a general ledger for any company or government regardless of ERP. And how well you can drive the ledger to map your business is the key here.
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SAP ====> ORACLE
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What is the fundamental difference between classful and classless routing?

Hello to all,
After reading several RFCs, guides and HOWTOs I am confused by an apparently trivial question - what is the basic, fundamental difference between classful and classless routing?
I am well aware that - said in a very primitive way - the classful routing does not make use of netmasks and instead uses the address classes while the classless routing utilizes the netmasks and does not evaluate the address classes.
However, already in 1985 the RFC 950 (Internet Standard Subnetting Procedure) stated that the networks can be further subnetted using the network mask. Since then the routers are expected to use network masks in the routing decision process in the precise way they use it nowadays. However, if the routers use network masks they are doing the classless routing, aren't they? Where is then the difference if we used to describe the 80's way of routing as a classful routing? Or was it already the classless routing? The RFCs about CIDR came gradually only in 1992 and 1993.
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Hello Mohammed,
I am afraid we still have not understood each other ;) I am not looking for the algorithms used to select the best path. I am well aware of them, both Ford-Bellman and Dijkstra, and about their internals. By the way, these algorithms do not have any influence whether the routing is classful or classless because they deal with metrics, not with masks. For example, a classless EIGRP internally uses a distance-vector algorithm, not a SPF algorithm.
I will try to explain once more what is my problem... There are two terms commonly used but badly defined: the classless routing and classful routing. Originally, I have thought that the classful routing works as follows:
- The routing table consists only of classful destination networks (major nets), metrics and respective gateways. No network masks are stored in the table because we are classful, that is, we use exclusively the route classes and all entries in the routing table are already classful.
- When routing a packet, the router looks at its destination IP address and determines the major net of this IP address (that is, the classful network that this IP address belongs to). Then it looks up the corresponding entry in the routing table and sends the packet to the respective gateway.
I thought that the classful routing works in this way. I won't describe the classless routing - both of us know how do the today's routers select the next hop.
However, in the RFCs 917 and 950 which were published in 1985, long ago before the term 'classless routing' was coined, the network mask was already defined and it was stated how the routers should work with it.
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Need Guidance from SOA and ESOA Experts

Hi Everybody.
Good Morning.
I have good experience in JAVA and J2EE.
i am going to work in Services team.
i am new to the SOA and ESOA Concept.
Please tell me, what would be the right approach to know the basics of SOA and ESOA.
Please tell be some books and links which would useful for the same.
Please dont redirect to some other links in forum...(am unable to find the source information when passing thru those links
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IN which role are you going to work in Service Team?
If you are Service Designer you have to know following things
1. Responsible for placing service reference documents in the Registry (WSDL and XSD) / Repository (usage scenarios annotated with non-functional requirements...)
2.Reconcile candidate service interfaces with existing infrastructure and identify missing pieces (e.g. mainframe service enablement)
3.Analyze all candidate service interfaces and check for gaps, inconsistencies or redundancies (e.g. overlapping service boundaries)
4.Match technical solutions to outlined design constraints (e.g. WS-Security to solve integrity and confidentiality constraints)
5.Formalize Service Descriptions into WSDL, XSD, etc
6.Work with Application Architect and Data Architect to ensure consistency with existing XML data formats and conventions
7.Create virtualized end points in the SM to be used in the Registry
8.Define policy in SM in collaboration with the Application Architect and IT Security
9.When changing the interface for pre-existing services, the Service Designer is responsible for defining appropriate elements (e.g., namespaces, versioning, and content based routing) that facilitate simultaneous deployment of multiple versions of the service
10.Responsible for ensuring compliance with published WS-Basic Profile
If you are a service developer you will do the following responsibilities
1. Identify (in collaboration with the Application Architect) and document the design patterns that will be used in implementing the service
2.Participate in creating recommendations for the WS implementation framework (e.g. WAS, RAD) Participate in design and code reviews
3.Implement services (by means of a specific development language and design pattern(s))
4.Successfully execute unit tests created by Service Tester(s)
5.Other services should be leveraged as appropriate with any direct data access designed in cooperation with the DBA and the Data Architect
6.Document service implementation
7.Responsible for re-factoring and regression testing when changes are made to an existing service
8.Ensure all relevant implementation related documentation is placed into the service repository
If you are a service tester you will do following things
1. Develop test plans and associated test cases for both unit tests and integration tests for services and service groups, using a web services specific testing tool
2.Ensure successful unit test completion prior to elevation to the Integration environment
3.Ensure successful integration test completion prior to elevation to the System Test environment
4.Ensure SLA performance metrics are met prior to elevation to Production environment
5.Ensure test results are logged
6.Ensure defects identified through Integration and System Test environment testing are communicated to the Service Implementer(s) and Service Designer(s) for the involved services, as well as to the Application Architect [ Only integration tests should fail since unit tests were confirmed prior to elevation to integration environment ]
7.Test for interoperability and other standards conformance
If you are a SOA Architect you WILL
1.Understand application design, SOA technologies, database and data warehouse design, network design, and the many other aspects of information technology
2.Responsible for documenting patterns that support SOA
3.Responsible for end to end service requestor and provider design
4.Responsible for stating non-functional service requirements
5.Responsible for the recommendation of the architectural framework, its maintenance and communication to Application Architects
6.Responsible for adherence to architectural frameworks
7.Ensure appropriate computational and data capacity are accounted for Know the capabilities of current technologies and work with business to recommend the best technologies to achieve the units strategic goals
8.Work with business units to evaluate software options from an investment point of view
9.Help business to obtain predictable benefits and recommend organizational and SDLC process changes depending on the recommended architecture
10.Work closely with Business Analysts to carefully consider business processes across business units; with the goal to reduce overall cost and improve effectiveness
11.Endeavor to stay abreast of emerging technologies and make appropriate recommendations for changes and additions to the enterprise architecture
12.Support change management impact analysis
13.Defines the standard naming conventions to be used for managed services
14.Plays a key role in defining the various enterprise architectural frameworks to be utilized
15.Responsible for defining, and ensuring adherence to application architecture framework guidelines and communicating them to the Application, Information and Data Architects etc.
16.Define work flow and approval process for service additions and changes to be made to the Registry
17.Responsible for identification of services and definition of service interfaces
18.Mediate between business and technology
FINALLY,
if you stick with a SOA enabled tools guy and try to learn SOA around it, you will remain a blind SOA guy.
SOA is an architecture approach which allow us to do IT enablemenet of business using loose couples services which can be defined by INTERFACES.
SOA introduce a new layer into enterprise architecture which enforce partially and fully following concepts
1. Enterprise Service Bus (ESB), provide mediation, routing, transformation, translation of interface messages between service consumer and provider. Examples of ESBs are Netweaver XI, IBM Websphere 6.0 ESB, BEA Aqualogic, TIBCO's business works.
2. Enterprise Service Registry: This tool provide SERVICe goverance views by providing a place for create/admin and manage service policies. Service policies are applied to service in different phase of service life cycle such as service plan, design, build, deploy and manage. Some examples of service registry are XI registry, Systinet from HP, WSSR from IBM. All registries has to follow UDDI specifications
3. Service Repository: A unified place holder for service metadata and artifacts. Service artifacts are generally based on Object Management Groups Reusable Asset Definition. Some good example of service repository are XI repository, WSSR, Systinet etc
4. Service Management framework. This is the tool manage the deployed services using service management framework. Examples IBM Tivoli SOA manager, HP SOA manager, XI Run time work Bench etc
Please do not try to learn SOA with respect to a tool. Learn SOA as an Architecture displine to build solution using implementation independent interfaces with supporting contracts and data.
WEB Services, XML, XSD, ESB, Registry, Repository etc are just frameworks supporting SOA concept, it is not really SOA. You can do SOA with CORBA AND IDL if you want.
SAP, IBM, HP, BEA, TIBCO, ORACLE etc are companies building tools using SOA frammework enabled technologies. A tool is not SOA, it is just using SOA as a foundation for thoughts.
When you learn SOA, think outside the BUNN
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Difference between cumulative and non-cumulative key figures

Hi,
What is the difference between cumulative and non-cumulative key figures and under what conditions they are used. What is snapshort and where it is used.

Hi.............
Basically the key figures are of two types cumulative and non cumulative.
Cumulative are the normal one which you use always and they always bring the new values of the key figures in the delta that is if suppose A has value 10 and after change the new value is 20 then you will use cumulative key figures there, and your delta( new value) will bring 20.
but suppose your key figures field only the change in the prior value that is in this case the delta in the key figure value will bring 10 (20-10- change of 10 )as new value in the key figure A then you will have to model it through the non cumulaitve key figures.
Now
1) Cumulative is for the first case that is if the key figure alwyas brings the new values of the key figure and not the change sin the key fiures value.
2)NCum. value with NCUM value change:
In this case ther is only one field which brings the changes for a particualr key figure and you ahve to define that key figure as non cumulative.
Ex: In case of stock only one filed brings both ingoing value and outgoing value so 10 ,-4,100,-34.....
In this case you will this option and use the key figure here in the space provided.
3) In this case you haev two separate key figures one for the inflow of stocks and one for the outflow of the stocks.
you use one key figure for the inflow and one key figure for the outflow.
The main key figure autiomatically takes care of the logic and gives the correct output upon the summation
net value of stocks( inflow- outflow).
Also do remember in this case the key figure for inflow and out flow are the basic key figures that is cumulative key figures.
A non-cumulative is a non-aggregating key figure on the level of one or more objects that is always displayed in relation to time. Examples of non-cumulatives include headcount, account balance and material inventory. here the aggregation of key figure is based on the another info object
There are two different ways to define non-cumulative key figures:
Non-cumulative key figure with non-cumulative changes:
Before you can define the non-cumulative key figure, an additional cumulative key figure containing the non-cumulative change must exist as an InfoObject.
Non-cumulative key figure with inflows and outflows
There has to be two additional cumulative key figures as InfoObjects for non-cumulative key figures - one for inflows and one for outflows. The cumulative key figures have to have the same technical properties as the non-cumulative key figure, and the aggregation and exception aggregation have to be SUM.
Features of non-cummulative key figures
A non-aggregating key Figure.
Records are not summarized for Reporting
Exception Aggregation is being applied on these key figures on the level of one or more info objects usually with time .
Examples: Head Count, Account balance, Material stock
consider simple senario
Date Net Stock Quantity Sales Revenue
01.02.2005 40 1000
02.02.2005 50 2000
03.02.2005 25 3000
this is the query output if stock quantity has treated as cummulative and non-cummulative key figures
if stock quantity taken as a cummulative key figure
Date NET STOCK QUANTITY SALES REVENUE
01.02.2005 30 1000
02.02.2005 50 2000
03.02.2005 20 3000
RESULT 100 6000
in the above result the key figure has aggregated to the total value that wont give sense to the net stock quantity
if stock quantity taken as non-cummulative key figure
Date Net Stock Quantity (LAST) Sales Revenue
01.02.2005 30 1000
02.02.2005 50 2000
03.02.2005 20 3000
RESULT 20 6000
Hope this helps you..............
Regards,
Debjani................
Edited by: Debjani Mukherjee on Sep 15, 2008 7:22 AM

What is the difference between action and workflow? How do I decide that I need an action in a transaction and not a workflow and vice versa?

Dear Experts,
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What is the difference between action and workflow? How do I decide that I need an action in a transaction and not a workflow and vice versa?
Your earliest response is highly appreciated.
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Difference between SOA Suite 64 Bit and SOA Suite 32 Bit

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I am new to SOA. I want to install SOA Suite 64 Bit on my laptop which 64 Bit system and has Window 8 64 Bit.
I am curious to know that what is the difference between SOA Suite 64 Bit and SOA Suite 32 Bit.
Are there different installations available for 64 Bit and 32 Bit?
Or
Installations are same for 64 Bit and 32 Bit but it's only depends on whether JDK is 64 Bit or 32 Bit.
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I can download the latest SOA Suite but still I am curious to know that how can I use the same SOA Suite which I have as 64 Bit.
Steps may be,
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