Issue regarding third party sales
Hi all,
In ThirdParty process as per knowledge two methods are there
1.Individual purchase order: Company will send purchase order to vendor and get good from vendor and deliver the goods and bills to customer,
2. Third party order process: Company pass the oder to vendor, vendor deliver goods to customer and bill the company, company bills to customer.
My question is
1. In the first method company will deliver goods to customer, what is the delivery process and billing process in this method, plz tell me the procedure for individual purchase oder step by step.
Thanks in advance
Hi,
Individual purchase orders are used when your customer orders goods from you that are not in stock and must be ordered from one or more external vendors.
Process Flow
During sales order entry, the system automatically creates a purchase requisition item. The purchasing department creates a purchase order based on the requisition and the vendor ships the goods directly to you (unlike third party order processing, where the vendor ships directly to your customer). You then ship the goods to your customer. While the goods are part of your inventory, you manage them as part of the sales order stock. Sales order stock consists of stock that is assigned to specific sales orders and cannot be used for other purposes. For more information, see Make-To-Order Production.
The processing of individual purchase orders is controlled by the material type. Material types define whether a material is produced only internally, can be ordered only from third-party vendors, or whether both are possible. For example, a material that is defined as a trading good can only be ordered from a third-party vendor. However, it might be advantageous at times to procure products that are normally produced internally (such as finished goods) from an external vendor.
Thanks,
Raja
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Hi friends
Regarding third party sales order as per my knowledge
Me21n is for creating purchase order
Migo is for goods receipt from vendor
Miro is for incoming invoice from vendor
My question is
wht r for these t-codes
Me57
me51n
Plz reply me
thanks in advanceDear Venkata,
ME57 - Assign & Process Purchase Requisation
ME51N - Create Purchase Requisitions.
By adopting Purchase Requisations you can create Purchase Orders...
But in case of THird Party Sales, Purchase Requisition would be automatically created as soon you save Sales Order. Subsequently you can create Purchase order based on Purchase requisition...
Hope this helps...
Reward if useful...
Thanks,
Jignesh Mehta
98700 10230
Edited by: Jignesh Mehta on Jul 18, 2008 3:18 PM -
CO-PA issue in Thirds Party Sales & Cross Company Code Sales
Hi,
In Third Party Sales with Shipping Notification and Cross Company Sales the CO-PA report is not reflecting the correct material cost. CO-PA is updating the material cost directly from the Material Master. Cross Company sales condition type PI02 & IV02 is using for pricing. IV02 is working perfect, but PI02 is not !
In detail, for Third Party Sales with Shipping Notification, no material is available in the stock. In material master the material cost display as $ 10/EA. But the Purchase Order value is $ 15/EA. During Goods Receipt time system is taking the cost as $ 15. While Billing time to the customer, system is posting to the CO-PA the material cost as $10/EA. FI postings are perfect, but CO-PA posting is not correct. CO-PA and P&L reconciliation is not matching due to this issue !
Waiting for the help.
Best regards,
JobyHave you considered using this user-exit?
User Exits in the SAPFV45PF0E and SAPFV45PF0C Programs
EXIT_SAPFV45P_001
You can use this user exit to decide whether intercompany billing data is used in the profitability segment for cross-company code sales, or whether the data comes from external billing (external customer, sales data from the selling company code.
Thanks,
Ben -
Dear All,
Issue is that i m doing third party sale.
Made sales order with Item Catagory TAS.Quantity 10.Linr item 10.PR created.
Then i've made PO with refrence of line item 10,quantity 5 EA.Quantity 5 remains open.
Then with the refrence of PO i've made invoice .
Then i've bill the line item 10 in sales oreder with va02.
The problem is that it selecting the quantity 10 even only 5 quantity is invoiced and 5 in PO is
still open.
The requirement is that only envoiced quentity should be avilable for billing.
Provide ur feedbacks.
Sukhveer.Dear Sri,
Billing relevance is F, Order related billing subject to invoice quantity.
PO is created w.r. to PR but MIGO is not to be done coz its third party E1 sale and MIRO
is completed for 2 quantity ,so only 2 quantity should be avilable for billing.
Needs ur feedback.
Sukhveer. -
hello sap gurus
i have a doubt regards third party sales
while creating standard sales order i have different 3line items on that one is not available for that i did third party for 1 line item
item category is TAS in one sales order. if i dolike this system will give purchase req no. i want to create one invoice for standard and third party order is it posible or not if it is posible please explain detailed.
thanks for advanceHello,
Whether your reuirement is possible in SAP is a second question.
First question is that whether this is practically possible? Because out of three line items, two will be delivered by your Company & one (third party item) will be delivered by Vendor.
Now the actual Delivery date & time to Customer of 2 items sent by you & Third party item item sent by Vendor may happen on different dates, thus creating Invoice for all these Items togather may not be a good idea.
Also Vendor too may not have the entire stock & send the goods to customer partially or on different dates.
Also in future you may like to have a seperate report of third party Invoices for profitability & other analysis. This will also be difficult if you have single Invoice for all Items.
Now coming to your requirement, it may be possible if you Item Category - Billing Relevance for TAN is A & for TAS is F or G.
Now in VF01, enter Delivery Numbers for two items sent by you & also enter the Sales Order Number & go to selection list & select the Third party Item. With this you will be able to create single Invoice for all the Items.
Hope this helps.
Thanks,
Jignesh Mehta -
hi
experts,
can any body explain in third party sales where do we see migo, miro, if possible step by step process.
thanks in advanceCustomize the third party sales in summary:
1. Create Vendor XK01
2. Create Material u2013 Material Type as "Trading Goods". Item category group as "BANS".
3. Assign Item Category TAS to Order type that you are going to use.
4. A sale order is created and when saved a PR is generated at the background
5. With reference to SO a PO is created (ME21N). The company raises PO to the vendor.
6. Vendor delivers the goods and raises bill to company. MM receives the invoice MIRO
7. Goods receipt MIGO
8. Goods issue
9. The item cat TAS or Schedule line cat CS is not relevant for delivery which is evident from the config and, therefore, there is no delivery process attached in the whole process of Third party sales.
10. Billing
SD - 3rd party sales order Create Sales Order
VA01
Order Type
Sales org, distr chnl, div
Enter
Sold to
PO #
Material
Quantity
Enter
Save
SD - 3rd party sales order View the PR that is created with a third party sales order
VA01
Order Number
Goto Item Overview
Item ->Schedule Item
SD - 3rd party sales order View the PR that is created
ME52N
Key in the PR number
Save
SD - 3rd party sales order Assign the PR to the vendor and create PO
ME57
Key in the PR number
Toggle the "Assigned Purchase Requisition"
Execute
Check the box next to the material
Assign Automatically button
Click on "Assignments" button
Click on "Process assignment"
The "Process Assignment Create PO" box , enter
Drag the PR and drop in the shopping basket
Save
SD - 3rd party sales order Receive Goods
MIGO_GR
PO Number
DN Number
Batch tab , click on classification
Serial Numbers tab
Date of Production
Flag Item OK
Check, just in case
Post
Save
SD - 3rd party sales order Create Invoice
MIRO
Invoice Date
Look for the PO , state the vendor and the Material
Check the box
Clilck on "Copy"
Purchase Order Number (bottom half of the screen)
Amount
State the baseline date
Simulate & Post
Invoice Number
*Invoice blocked due to date variance
SD - 3rd party sales order Create a delivery order
VL01N
In the order screen , go to the menu Sales Document , select "Deliver"
Go to "picking" tab
State the qty and save
SD - 3rd party sales order Create a billing document
VF01
Ensure that the delivery document is correct in the
Enter
Go to edit -> Log
Save
Regards
Deepak -
How Third-party sales issue PO without PR?
Dear Master,
I am doing with CS schedule line for third-party sale, my client doesn't want to generate PR, they want to generate PO directly. Is there anyway to do it? Could you pls help me on that! Thks a lot in advance!
Best regards,Hi
As per my knowledge it is not possible through standard ,i will suggest work around solution for the above issue
1. Kindly maintain the tick mark Automatic P.O in the purchasing view of the material master record through t code - MM02
2. Then Run the t code ME57 to assign the purchase requistion automaticallt prior to this maintain the source list and schedule the program in the back ground with selection parameters .
By doing the above sales order created purchasing requisition will be generated in turn P.O will be created automatically
THis is the overview solution what i can suggest.
Regards
Damu -
Regarding error in third party sales order
Hi we are doing third party sales scenarion in which when we are creating the sales order for the customer the following error is occuring " material Gold Chain kept in stock ( if necessary , create a reservation )
Material name:- Gold Chain
Material type :- HAWA trading goods
Industry sector:- Jewellery
item category group :- BANS
general item category:- NORM
Availability check:- KPhi,
this is to inform you that,
4 programs are affected with this:
LEBNEF0F 138 MESSAGE w550(me) WITH eban-matnr.
140 MESSAGE e550(me) WITH eban-matnr.
LMECOU04 174 MESSAGE w550(me) WITH i_matnr.
176 MESSAGE e550(me) WITH i_matnr.
LMEREQF29 288 mmpur_message_enaco_forced '' 'ME' '550' ''
MM06BF0N_NEUE_POS_BANF 258 MESSAGE w550(me) WITH eban-matnr.
260 MESSAGE e550(me) WITH eban-matnr.
EBAN - MATNR - deals with PURCHASE REQUISITION AND MATERIAL NUMBER.
please check the PR first and update the forum.
hope this clears your issue.
balajia -
Third Party Sales Order issue ! please solve my problem
Dear all,
when I am creating third party sales order,system is going to 'Standard Order:Purchase Order Schedule' screen.So,it confirm the quantity after 1 day instead of my particular given date.can anybody tell me why it is showing this screen ? how can I overcome this problem ? Please give me suggestion .
with regards,
RanaThere are two lead times involved -
1. Purchase Lead time - time reqd. by internal purchasing dept. for processing
2. Vendor Lead Time - time reqd. by vendor to deliver.
For vendor lead time check in ME11 (vendor material info record). In the Purchasing Org Data 1 tab - check planned delivery time.
Also in Material Master - in Purchasing tab - check GR processing field. Also pls. check other fields in purchasing and MRP tabs.
Also Check - SPRO > MATERIALS MANAGEMENT > PURCHASING > PURCHASE REQUISITION > PROCESSING TIME
Thanks -
Third party sale order qty issue
Hi,
While creating third party sales order: PR has been created for 20 items automaticallyu2026u2026
Now I have created PO w.r.t. PR for 8 qtyu2026.
I did GR for 4 qty and done invoice for the sameu2026
Now when I am trying to create PO again wrt PR for remaining item i.e. qty 12 ( I tried for qty 1 also)..
I am getting error :
Materials for PReq 104, item 00010, already partially ordered
Message no. 06249
UtsHi,
system will not allow you to create purchase order.
Goto VA02, Item schedule lines change the order quantity to 8 from 20.
enter another delivery date and qty 12 in second row press enter, system automatically creates another line item for same purchase requisition, you can see it in same screen.
E.g 10000110 10 8 qty
10000110 20 12 qty
Now goto create purchase order with same PR number and line item number 20.
Regards,
Chandra -
Third party sales processing issue
Hi,
I have a batche managed materail which i am processing for the first time with Third party sales.
I have created deklivery for the material . but when i am creating the Billing docuemnt , system is asking for Goods issue.
As there is no stock in system, how this should be processed?Hi
Delivery is not a part of third party process. Please go through the third party process again and configure.
Check this [Link|http://help.sap.com/saphelp_46c/helpdata/en/e6/4a78e39e0311d189b70000e829fbbd/content.htm].
Regards -
Third party sale scenario: COGS not allowed as automatically posted.
Dear Gurus,
I have come across this error during execution of third party sale scenario.
When the user enters a PO with reference to PR which is in reference to SO, one error pops up which says COGS cannot be automatically posted only.
When I deselect the "Post automatically" tick, the PO can be saved.
Process we are following during third party sale process:-
1. Sales order.
2. PR with reference to Sales order.
3. Purchase order with reference to PR.
4. Statistical GR with reference to PO.: COGS Dr. To GR/IR Clearing account Cr.
5. Sales Invoice: Customer Dr. To Sales Cr.
6. MIRO: GR/IR Clearing account Dr. To Vendor Cr.
I have my own doubts on the statistical GR part. Can you pls. validate the same.
Also in case of third party sale, what will be the CO object as COGS is not created a cost element. (SAP standard)
Regards,
Harnish ShahHi
Please check the steps for 3rd business process.
Sales Order:VA01
List of Sales Order:VA05
Purchase Order with reference to Purchase Requisition: ME21N
Inbound Delivery:VL31N Material Receipt:MIGO
Result Recording Work list:QE51N
QM Usage Decision:QA32
Activities due for Shipping `Sales Orders, fast display` VL10A (VL01N)
Post of Goods Issue (PGI):VL02N
Post of Goods Deliver:VLPOD
Post the Billing doc VF01 or Maintain the Billing due list-VF04
Release Billing Document for Accounting VFX3
Delivery Document list ZVL05
Edit Work list for Invoice List VF24
Output of Billing Document VF31
Customer Payment F-28
As per my knowledge once psot the PGI,System will upddate COGS values.
Regards
asuvamsi -
Dear Raja,
Thanks for give me good solution in third party sales, But it was half is done.
What you told is
Key-in Country Code: IN, and "Exter"
Key-in Tax Code: VN, and "Enter"
At Top, Click Tab: Tax Accounts. Key-in Charts of Accounts. Give the G/L account in which the posting should be done.
In this while doing Tax code there is Justification type I was unable to fill it and save the document if u wont can give solution for that.
Regards,
MaddyHi Maddy,
If your issue is not solved, please continue the same old thread instead of creating a new thread. This helps others to follow the discussion and understand the process to resolve the issue.
You have posted this same thread twice and please remove one before the moderator locks it.
Regards,
Ravi -
No CO-PA document on Third party Sales Order
We are doing Third Party Sales orders with Purchasing and Invoice REceipt, via the following process.
1 Sales order, 2) automatically creates the req via sales order, 3) delivery of sales order, 4) create the purchase order from the req. 5) post goods issue on the delivery, 6) Post goods receipt on purchase order, 7) bill and 8) invoice via miro.
the issue we have is that the variance(cOGS-PPV) account on the Miro does not go to CO-PA .
I believe that it is due to the Third Party sales order . re- oss 322497 and 772345.
Has anyone found a solution or have a similar problem.
I know that this is different from normal third party which does not deliver and receives PO and MIRO before the billing.Hi Jeffrey,
If the corresponding purchase order belongs to a third-party deal,
please have a look at note 322497.
This would explain the behaviour that you are describing.
As explained in the note, during goods or invoice receipt for a
third-party transaction, as of Release 4.6, the system no longer
writes a line item in the costing-based profitability analysis.
Unlike the processing of a third-party deal in front of release 4.6 the
update of the goods receipt or the invoice receipt is not therefore
anymore required from the release 4.6 in the costing-based profitability
analysis.
You may find further information on the topic in SAPNET
(intranet.sap.com/co-pa):
within "Actual Data","third party business/business background"
Regards,
BC -
Third party sales order report
Hi
I got to prepare a report and the description is as follows:
"Report for discount pricing conditions manually entered in third party sales orders."
"Discount price reporting for manual pricing conditions in sales order processing (not in billing)"
"The report should reflect manual pricing discounts captured in the third party sales order.The relevant (third party) document types will be confirmed.Currently we have the following pricing condition type used for manual discount: YRD2- Manual Distr. Discount % YRD3- Manual Distr. Discount fixedThis report will facilitate the monitoring on the discounts given to the distributors.We still need to confirm the complete list of discount pricing conditions for the report.The report should extract the manual discount information based on the following criteria:Sales organization, period, sales order, customer (wholesaler and/or third party) and pricing condition type.Summing per sales order, customer, period should be enabled.The discounts should be displayed in document (sales order) currency. "
I didnt understand the following to get the purpose of this report:
1. what is this third party sales order ?
2. What is manual pricing condition?
3. what is manual pricing condition? how many types of conditions are there like this?
4. What is the actual analysis that can be made from the output of this report?
Please explain them in detail. Thank you.THIRD PARTY SCENARIO
In third-party order processing, your company does not deliver the items requested by a customer. Instead, you pass the order along to a third-party vendor who then ships the goods directly to the customer and bills you. A sales order may consist partly or wholly of third-party items. Occasionally, you may need to let a vendor deliver items you would normally deliver yourself.
Process Flow
The processing of third-party orders is controlled via material types. Material types define whether a material is produced only internally, can be ordered only from third-party vendors, or whether both are possible. For example, a material that is defined as a trading good can only be ordered from a third-party vendor. However, if you manufacture your own finished products, you may also want, from time to time, to be able to order the same type of product from other vendors.
Processing Third-Party Orders in Sales
Third-party items can be created automatically by the system, depending on how your system is set. However, you can also change a standard item to a third-party item during sales processing manually.
Automatic third-party order processing
If a material is always delivered from one or more third-party vendors, you can specify in the material master that the material is a third-party item. During subsequent sales order processing, the system automatically determines the appropriate item category for a third-party item: TAS. To specify a material as a third-party item, enter BANS in the Item category group field in the Sales 2 screen of the material master record.
Manual third-party order processing
In the case of a material that you normally deliver yourself but occasionally need to order from a third-party vendor, you can overwrite the item category during sales order processing. For a material that you normally deliver yourself, you specify the item category group NORM in the material master.
If, as an exception, you use a third-party material, change the entry TAN to TAS in the ItCa field when processing the sales document. The item is then processed as third-party item.
If address data for the ship-to party is changed in the sales order in third-party business transactions, the changed data will automatically be passed on to purchase requisition and also to the purchase order ,if one already exists. In the purchase order, you can display the address data for the ship-to party in the attributes for the item.
You can only change the address data for the ship-to party in the sales order for third-party business transactions, and not in the purchase order.
Processing Third-Party Orders in Purchasing
When you save a sales order that contains one or more third-party items, the system automatically creates a purchase requisition in Purchasing. Each third-party item in a sales order automatically generates a corresponding purchase requisition item. During creation of the requisition, the system automatically determines a vendor for each requisition item. If a sales order item has more than one schedule line, the system creates a purchase requisition item for each schedule line.
Purchase orders are created from purchase requisitions in the usual way. For more information about creating purchase orders, see the Purchasing documentation. During creation of the purchase order, the system automatically copies the delivery address of your customer from the corresponding sales order. In a sales order, you can enter purchase order texts for each third-party item. When you create the corresponding purchase order, the texts are automatically copied into the purchase order. The number of the purchase order appears in the document flow information of the sales order.
All changes made in the purchase order are automatically made in the sales order as well. For example, if the vendor confirms quantities and delivery dates different from those you request and enters them in the purchase order, the revised data is automatically copied into the sales order
You process third-party items by creating a normal sales order. In overview for the order, you can then overwrite the default item category (TAN in the standard system) with the special item category for third-party items: TAS
Billing Third-Party Orders
If relevance for billing indicator for the item category has been set to B (relevant for order-related billing on the basis of the order quantity) in Customizing, the system includes the order in the billing due list immediately. If, however, the indicator has been set to F (relevant to order-related billing on the basis of the invoice quantity), the system does not include the order in the billing due list until an invoice from the vendor has been received and processed by the purchasing department. In the standard system, item category TAS (third-party order processing) has been given billing-relevance indicator F.
In the first case, the third-party order is considered to be completely billed only when the invoiced quantity equals the order quantity of the sales order item. In the second case, each time a vendor invoice is received, a customer invoice is created for the quantity in the vendor invoice and the order is considered to be fully invoiced until the next vendor invoice is received.
If you have activated billing-relevance indicator F for item categories in Customizing, billing can refer to the goods receipt quantity instead of the incoming invoice quantity.
You can control whether the invoice receipt quantity or the quantity of goods received is relevant for billing in Customizing for copying control for billing at item level.
FOR YOUR PROCESS Individual Purchase Orders WELL GIVE THE RIGHT SOLUTION
Individual purchase orders are used when your customer orders goods from you that are not in stock and must be ordered from one or more external vendors.
Process Flow
During sales order entry, the system automatically creates a purchase requisition item. The purchasing department creates a purchase order based on the requisition and the vendor ships the goods directly to you (unlike third party order processing, where the vendor ships directly to your customer). You then ship the goods to your customer. While the goods are part of your inventory, you manage them as part of the sales order stock. Sales order stock consists of stock that is assigned to specific sales orders and cannot be used for other purposes.
Goods receipt will be posted when ever the vendor ships the goods to our customer.
We will do this transaction in SAP using MIGO.
Invoice receipt is done when the Vendor sends us the invoice.. ( I.e Billing ).
It can be done using MIRO.
THe above two steps are standard and manual. There are many other ways that the actual process can happen. If the client follows EDI standards then the Goods receipt and Invoice receipt can be done through IDOCs automatically.
Process Flow for 3rd Party Sales
Customize the third party sales in summary:
Prerequisites for 3rd party sales,
Purchasing org,
purchasing group,
assign the Purchase org to company code
assign Purchase org to plant,
should not maintain the stock in material, it should be trading goods,
1. Create Vendor XK01
2. Create Material Material Type as "Trading Goods". Item category group as "BANS".
3. Assign Item Category TAS to Order type that you are going to use.
4. A sale order is created and when saved a PR is generated at the background
5. With reference to SO a PO is created (ME21N). The company raises PO to the vendor.
6. Vendor delivers the goods and raises bill to company. MM receives the invoice MIRO
7. Goods receipt MIGO
8. Goods issue
9. The item cat TAS or Schedule line cat CS is not relevant for delivery which is evident from the config and, therefore, there is no delivery process attached in the whole process of Third party sales.
10. Billing *--
Regards.
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