Iterative calculations

i have a question as i am very new to numbers (excel too for that matter) I imported a model from excel that has circular references until i enable iterative calculations.( to do it in excel: Select ALT T, O and then on the 'Calculation' tab check the box that says enable iterative calculation.) how would i do this in numbers?
Thanks
CF

cfow wrote:
i have a question as i am very new to numbers (excel too for that matter) I imported a model from excel that has circular references until i enable iterative calculations.( to do it in excel: Select ALT T, O and then on the 'Calculation' tab check the box that says enable iterative calculation.) how would i do this in numbers?
For Numbers, a circular reference is an error, no way to change that.
Yvan KOENIG (VALLAURIS, France) vendredi 4 mars 2011 22:15:16

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Iterative price calculation

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sorry for my delay. 
 
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the following passage from field "Equivalence Numbers" F1 document. 
 
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Weighting factor for distribution of activity-independent plan costs of a cost center onto the available activity types. 
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This field group serves to weight the activity types created in a cost center. After weighting, the activity-independent plan costs of a cost center are distributed onto the available activity types. 
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REP 20,000 X 1/5 = 4,000 $4,000 / 50 hrs = 80 $/hr 
RST 20,000 X 1/5 = 4,000 $4,000 / 20 hrs = 200 $/hr 
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