Jaguar to tiger and back

I had extra ram professionally installed in my G3 ibook with OS 10.2.8 (Jaguar). I have the proper Tiger install disk. I've backed up all my documents and am now ready to install Tiger. 1.If I install Tiger, will the data in my address book, calendar, quicken and photos uploaded to Nikon software still be there when I upgrade? 2. If Tiger doesn't work properly, can I reinstall 10.2.8 and have everything work the way it did before the Tiger Install? I'm nervous about this because my 7-year old ibook runs like a dream, but I can't run Skype or upgrade safari, itunes, etc. with my dream machine.

Conny:
Actually, the point is to run Repair Disk in Disk Utility, and you can do this booted from Tiger. The following procedure assumes you have already cloned your internal HDD to an external firewire HDD as suggested earlier.
Installation Process
Insert Installer disk and Restart, holding down the "C" key until grey Apple appears.
Go to Installer menu (Panther and earlier) or Utilities menu (Tiger) and launch Disk Utility.
Select your HDD (manufacturer ID) in the left panel.
Select First Aid in the Main panel.
(Check S.M.A.R.T Status of HDD at the bottom of right panel, and report if it says anything but Verified)
Click Repair Disk on the bottom right.
If DU reports disk does not need repairs quit DU and restart.
If DU reports errors Repair again and again until DU reports disk is repaired.
If DU reports errors it cannot repair you will need to use a utility like Tech Tool Pro or Disk Warrior
• If Disk Utility reports Disk repaired or needs on repairs Quit Disk Utility
• Open Installer and begin installation.
• Select Options and choose Archive and Install and to preserve settings.
• Choose to Customize and deselect Foreign Language Translations and Additional Printer drivers.
Optional: Check box to install X11 (Tiger)
• Proceed with installation.
• After installation computer will restart for setup.
• After setup, reboot computer.
• Go to Applications > Utilities > Disk Utility.
• Select your HDD (manufacturer ID) in left side bar.
• Select First Aid in main panel.
• Click Repair Disk Permissions.
• Connect to Internet.
• Download and install Mac OS X 10.4.11 Combo update (PPC) (Tiger)
Computer will restart.
• Repair Disk Permissions as previously.
• Go to Apple Menu > Software Update.
• Install all updates.
Computer may restart after updates.
• Go to Applications > Utilities > Disk Utility.
• Select your HDD (manufacturer ID) in left side bar.
• Select First Aid in main panel.
• Click Repair Disk Permissions.

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Build 6R73
800 MHz processor Power PC
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Hi, I've been searching for confirmation that I can upgrade from Jaguar to Tiger, and it looks like this is the place to go...
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I plan to back up my personal files and any
downloaded software I have.
Amazing that. You've told us that numerous times, but
you've failed to provide us with information on
HOW you're going to do this. That is, please
explain WHAT you're using for the backup and
WHERE you're planning on using to store the
backup.
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Upgrading from jaguar to Tiger on an eMac

i am posting for a friend who was upgrading her eMac from jaguar to Tiger. she followed the directions that she was prompted to follow, got to the end of the installation and, as prompted, did the restart. when the computer rebooted, it never fully restarted. she just got the screen that we all get with the spinning wheel. it spun for about an hour. she rebooted, same thing. obviously something went wrong with the install. where does she go from here?
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If one of these steps solves the problems she need not go further, but she needs to learn how to backup her data.
1. Try restarting with nothing but Apple keyboard and mouse attached.
2. Try resetting the PRAM:
http://docs.info.apple.com/article.html?artnum=2238
3. Try booting off the 10.4 installer DVD if it is a retail version using the Startup Manager:
http://docs.info.apple.com/article.html?artnum=106178
and go through the language selection screen and go to the Utilities menu and select Disk Utility. In the Disk Utility, select First Aid. Verify disk, and report back any errors to you. Repair permissions as well, and try restarting.
4. If her data is backed up, but she can't boot, she should do step 3 with a repair disk.
5. If repair disk does not work, she should get an external hard disk that is Firewire and see if should install 10.4 on it, and see the contents of the internal drive while booted off it using the aforementioned startup manager to boot. http://www.macsales.com/ sells such hard drives. If she can see the contents of the internal drive, she should backup her information if in step 3 she wasn't backed up. If she can't see it, she should use buy Prosoft Data Rescue to recover information to the external hard drive.
6. If she got usable data from step 5 onto the external hard drive, she should attempt to archive and install 10.4 on the internal drive with the external drive detached, and recover information from the external drive:
http://docs.info.apple.com/article.html?artnum=301270
7. If she was not able to get usable data on step 5, she should try Alsoft Disk Warrior to repair the internal drive.
If after all that she can't get usable data, I recommend she seek out a data recovery specialist if she didn't backup.
In the future she should always backup before updating, and follow these upgrade tips of mine:
http://www.macmaps.com/upgradefaq.html

Upgrading from Jaguar to Tiger

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At least with the eMac in FW TDM and attached with the correct cable
to the newer Intel-based Mac, you could use the optical drive in the
newer Mac to archive larger size files than with a CD-RW drive in eMac.
Few if any Jaguar-based items would really do all that well in Tiger;
and the few that could be OK (AppleWorks 6, etc) could be extracted
from the Jaguar-based original eMac install-restore disc set through
the use of the utility Pacifist in its demo mode and installed in Tiger.
For that much trouble, if one needed an office-like suite, get NeoOffice.
It does word-like stuff and spreadsheet, & so on; it's a free download.
The external drive may show up in the eMac's Disk Utility; if it does, that
may be a time to see if it can be partitioned and formatted for Mac. If not
already. The newer Macs may offer a different format than the eMac is
comfortable in using; since Intel-based Macs can use different schemes.
You could see if the external drive can be used by the Intel-Mac for moved
content from the FireWire TDM-booted eMac, to be archived on the external.
Anyway, sounds like fun. The easiest thing would be upgrading the eMac RAM.
(In Tiger, after upgrading to 10.4.11, be sure to get all the Java upgrades, the
last Security Update, Quicktime, new browsers, Adobe Shockwave + Flash,
Adobe Reader, and consider a few widgets such as iStat Pro, and DashQuit.
The OnyX version for Tiger is a good utility from Titanium Software, too.
The system discs which shipped with the Intel-based computer won't work in
the PPC computer; nor will other model's specific disc sets. You'd need retail 10.4.
Good luck & happy computing!

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I would like to remove OS 10.4 (Tiger) from my computer and replace it with the original OS 10.2.7 that came with my PowerMac G5. But when I put the Software Install & Restore disc it say's that there is a newer version and will not let me continue the installation.
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That's what I'm up against. If you could direct me to the Folder where the OS 10.4 is installed on my hard drive that would be wonderful (without deleting essential files).
Thank you very much.

Brittney:
The article Mac OS X: How to reinstall a prior version has suggestions to get you started.
My suggestion would be for you to be sure that you have your Users Folder backed up. Then do a complete reformat and re-install of Panther or Jaguar. The following step-by-step assumes you are installing Panther.
Formatting, Partitioning Zeroing a Hard Disk Drive
Warning! This procedure will destroy all data on your Hard Disk Drive. Be sure you have an up-to-date, tested backup of at least your Users folder and any third party applications you do not want to re-install before attempting this procedure.
Boot from the install CD holding down the "C" key.
Select language
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Select your HDD (manufacturer ID) in left side bar.
Select Partition tab in main panel. (You are about to create a single partition volume.)
Select number of partition in pull-down menu above Volume diagram.
(Note: 1 partition is normally better for an internal HDD. External HDDs usually have more than one. See Dr. Smoke’s FAQ Backup and Recovery for tips on partitioning external HDD.)
Type in name in Name field (usually Macintosh HD)
Select Volume Format as Mac OS Extended (Journaled)
Click Partition button at bottom of panel.
Select Erase tab
Optional: (Select the sub-volume under Manufacturer ID (usually Macintosh HD).
Check to be sure your Volume Name and Volume Format are correct.
Select on Security Options button (Tiger) Options button (Panther & earlier).
Select Zero all data. (This process will map out bad blocks on your HDD. However, it could take several hours. If you want a quicker method, don't go to Security Options and just click the Erase button.)
Click OK.
Click Erase button
Quit Disk Utility.
Open installer and begin installation process.
Choose to Customize and deselect Foreign Language Translations and Additional Printer drivers.
Check box to install X11 (Tiger) BSD Subsystems (Panther & earlier).
Proceed with installation.
After installation computer will restart for setup.
After setup, reboot computer.
Go to Applications > Utilities > Disk Utility.
Select your HDD (manufacturer ID) in left side bar.
Select First Aid in main panel.
Click Repair Disk Permissions.
Connect to Internet.
Download and install 10.3.9 Combo Update.
Computer will restart after updates.
Go to Applications > Utilities > Disk Utility.
Select your HDD (manufacturer ID) in left side bar.
Select First Aid in main panel.
Click Repair Disk Permissions.
Please post back with further questions or comments.
Good luck.
cornelius
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G4 MDD FW800 Dual Boot Tiger and Leopard

I have a Power Mac G4 1.25 Dual MDD FW800 currently running Tiger 10.4.9. I would like to install Leopard on a partition or a second hard drive so I can dual boot between Tiger and Leopard. Will the FW800 model allow this without eliminating Tiger or creating any issues with using Tiger? I recall reading somewhere that the MDD FW800 could not run Jaguar and Tiger concurrently but I don't know if this is true? Anyone running this Tiger-Leopard dual boot setup?
Thanks Della

Your MDD's are FW800 also?
What you are asking doesn't matter.
ALL G4 machines, including ALL MDD machines, including the FW800 CAN maintain two or more OS versions (such as Tiger and Leopard) and CAN boot back and forth between the versions.
Any G4 that I have ever had, Sawtooth to MDD/FW800 has run two, three and four OS versions.
I currently have OS9, Panther, Tiger and Leopard installed on this machine.
Another source had told me that the FW800 MDD could not boot back to a previous version OS once a newer version OS had been installed ie once Leopard was installed you could not boot from Tiger again from another startup disk?
Your source is incorrect, and is telling you contrary to all the content of the entire internet regarding the topic.
The FW800 cannot boot to OS 9 (any version) nor can it boot to OS X earlier than 10.2.3.
As with ANY G4, it cannot run OS X Snow Leopard (10.6).
Those are the ONLY limitations.
ALL other OS versions after OS X 10.2.3, in any number of combinations, may be present as boot volumes on the machine.
If you had 4 drives with 3 OS versions each, as long as the version was within the machines compatibility, it would be fine and boot would be supported.

How do I get my email history off of my POP servers and BACK into Mail?

I was trying to change the name of a folder in my OS 10.4 Tiger Mail application. It generated an error message, (I do not know the exact message) it said that I could not change the name of that folder. After the error message left the screen, ALL of the email in that folder disappeared. Including all of the email in the 24 sub-folders that I had created... Poof... Gone... My entire business email history for the past month.
I was able to access my account info (through the Account Info panel) for all 4 of my POP accounts located on different POP servers. Thankfully, my email history has NOT been deleted off of those servers. So my question is:
How do I get my email history off of my POP servers and BACK into Mail?
I DO NOT want to delete ANY email from the servers, I just want to get my history back into Tiger Mail... Someone help me please...

I spoke with Mac Tech Support. To get my messages from my server back into Mail, I was told to mark my email (on my webmail server) as unread. Mail will then know to pull these specific messages into my account.
However, this is one of a handful of problems that I have been having with the Mail application. Just today I tried to create a new message by hitting NEW and the program crashed. This plus having all of my messages disappear and then having to reimport them isn't worth the effort. I've decided to stop using Mail completely.
I was just told about Mozilla's Thunderbird email application. It's free and looks better than Mail. Do yourself a favor and go check out Thunderbird at:
http://www.mozilla.com/thunderbird/

List of sysctl add/del/changes between Tiger and Leopard

I've ran a quick diff between the sysctl values in Tiger and Leopard. Note: This is from two different macbook's, so some values may be changed due to hardware.
This should give folks an idea as to what buffer sizes, performance tweaks, etc. have been added.
If you're real bored, I guess you could revert everything network related back to Tiger values ... but, yeah, good luck with that. You may break more than you fix.
Most of these you can lookup on-line or in the kernel source to see what they do. Sometime in the next week or so I'll add descriptions if you don't have a network background or src code background.
Removed
T debug.net80211: 0 0
T net.athCCAThreshold: 28 28
T net.athaddbaignore: 0 0
T net.athaggrfmax: 28 28
T net.athaggrqmin: 1 1
T net.athbadrxbuf: 0 0
T net.athbadrxdesc: 0 0
T net.athbgscan: 1 1
T net.athdupie: 1 1
T net.athforceBias: 2 2
T net.athforcebadrx: 0 0
T net.athpowermode: 0 0
T net.athppmupdate: 1 1
T net.athvendorie: 1 1
T net.inet.tcp.delacktime: 50
T net.pstimeout: 20 20
Changed
T net.link.generic.system.ifcount: 11
L net.link.generic.system.ifcount: 7
T net.inet6.ip6.fw.debug: 1
L net.inet6.ip6.fw.debug: 0
T net.inet.ip.fw.debug: 1
L net.inet.ip.fw.debug: 0
T net.inet.ip.fw.one_pass: 1
L net.inet.ip.fw.one_pass: 0
T net.inet.ip.fw.static_count: 12
L net.inet.ip.fw.static_count: 1
T net.inet.ip.maxchainsent: 0
L net.inet.ip.maxchainsent: 45
T net.inet.ip.rtexpire: 10
L net.inet.ip.rtexpire: 140
T net.inet.tcp.blackhole: 2
L net.inet.tcp.blackhole: 0
T net.inet.tcp.keepidle: 144000
L net.inet.tcp.keepidle: 7200000
T net.inet.tcp.keepinit: 1500
L net.inet.tcp.keepinit: 75000
T net.inet.tcp.keepintvl: 1500
L net.inet.tcp.keepintvl: 75000
T net.inet.tcp.localslowstartflightsize: 4
L net.inet.tcp.localslowstartflightsize: 8
T net.inet.tcp.loginvain: 3
L net.inet.tcp.loginvain: 0
T net.inet.tcp.msl: 600
L net.inet.tcp.msl: 15000
T net.inet.tcp.sendspace: 32768
L net.inet.tcp.sendspace: 65536
T net.inet.tcp.sockthreshold: 256
L net.inet.tcp.sockthreshold: 64
T net.inet.tcp.pcbcount: 41
L net.inet.tcp.pcbcount: 38
T net.inet.tcp.recvspace: 32768
L net.inet.tcp.recvspace: 65536
T net.inet.udp.blackhole: 1
L net.inet.udp.blackhole: 0
T net.inet.udp.loginvain: 3
L net.inet.udp.loginvain: 0
T net.inet.udp.pcbcount: 44
L net.inet.udp.pcbcount: 16
Added
L kern.netboot: 0
L net.inet.ip.random_id: 1
L net.inet.ip.dummynet.debug: 0
L net.inet.tcp.backgroundioenabled: 1
L net.inet.tcp.backgroundiotrigger: 5
L net.inet.tcp.ecninitiateout: 0
L net.inet.tcp.ecnnegotiatein: 0
L net.inet.tcp.inswcksum: 2806591
L net.inet.tcp.insw_cksumbytes: 1244150487
L net.inet.tcp.maxseg_unacked: 8
L net.inet.tcp.outswcksum: 4438883
L net.inet.tcp.outsw_cksumbytes: 4483972145
L net.inet.tcp.rexmt_thresh: 2
L net.inet.tcp.rfc3465: 1
L net.inet.tcp.rtt_min: 1
L net.inet.tcp.socketunlocked_onoutput: 1
L net.inet.tcp.winscalefactor: 3
L net.inet.udp.inswcksum: 5697
L net.inet.udp.insw_cksumbytes: 721922
L net.inet.udp.outswcksum: 4899
L net.inet.udp.outsw_cksumbytes: 445568
L net.inet6.ip6.fw.enable: 1
L net.link.ether.inet.keep_announcements: 1
L net.link.ether.inet.sendconflictingprobes: 1
L net.link.ether.inet.sendllconflict: 0
L net.link.generic.system.dlilinput_sanitycheck: 0
L net.link.generic.system.multithreadedinput: 1
L net.smb.fs.loglevel: 0
L net.smb.fs.tcprcvbuf: 131072
L net.smb.fs.tcpsndbuf: 131072
L net.smb.fs.version: 104000

Hey there,
I believe I'm having the same issue. I'm using Mail.app in 10.5 with a gmail account (IMAP). The issues is that in Tiger we had the IMAP option in the account settings "Advanced" tab to: "Automatically synchronize changed mailboxes." This option appears to be missing, and even more, does not happen in Leopard. What this means is that changes to folders (other than one's that you explicitly open/synchronize manually, will not shows updates in Leopard.
This is especially annoying with the "All Mail" (Archive) folder for Gmail IMAP in Leopard. In order to ensure that your "All Mail" is always up to date, you have to manually open it (to initiate a sync). Otherwise it does not auto update like it does in Tiger.
Thanks,
Shahrum

Is Photoshop Elements 2 compatible with Tiger and iWeb?

I went to the Version Tracker site but could not navigate well enough to find Photoshop Elements 2. There was a lot about Photoshop Elements 4, but not 2.
I then went to Adobe.com to find information but without results. When I entered Photoshop Elements 2 I got routed to a long list of problems, but not the more generalized issue of compatibility with OS 10.4/Tiger.
So I return to this forum with the simple question: If I upgrade to Tiger and then to iLife '06, will my existing Photoshop Elements 2 be compatible with both?
Thank you in advance for any answers to my question..........
— Lorna in Southern California

Regarding Photoshop Elements 2 vs. Photoshop Elements
4... these are simply versions of the same basic
program. You know how software companies do things.
They pack a couple more features in and give the
software a new number every few months in the hopes
of selling a few more copies.
James, the incident that stuck in my memory was about my cousin Dale, who is a musician. He was using a certain songwriting program and was not able to upgrade to Jaguar, I think (or Panther?) because, according to him, that music writing program would not be able to work on Panther! I extrapolated from that.........
— Lorna in Southern California

Installing Tiger AND Leopard

Help! My macbook pro has been acting funky.
1. It won't let me install updates because it can't find the folder "/".
2. Every time I launch word, it thinks it's the first time.
3. Front row thinks I'm not connected to the internet when I clearly am.
The guy at the genius bar suggested re-installing the OS that came with the mac (Tiger) and then my current OS (Leopard). Everything is supposedly backed up with Time Machine. If I put the original OS Tiger CD in, will everything be wiped out? I'm a little nervous about the whole thing.
Can somebody please help? Thank you!
Jolivet

The first thing I'd try is a Leopard archive and install (after repairing the folder permissions and verifying the disk with Disk Utility). That will not erase your data.
Can you explain why the genius suggested you install Tiger first?
If you can't archive and install, then the next option would be to install Leopard with an erase and install. That will definitely erase your data (it erases you hard disk), so all you have left if your Time Machine backup. When you fist start up the Mac with the new Leopard you should plug in your Time Machine backup disk and when asked, specify that you want to restore from a Time Machine backup.
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How to upgrade to 10.4 Tiger and Xsan 1.3

I am running Xsan 1.1 on and Xserve G5/RAID running OS X 10.3.9. I need to get everything up to date so that client machines can be running 10.4.x Tiger. What is the best upgrade path? ie...
- do I upgrade server to Tiger first, still running Xsan 1.1 (for 10.3.9)?
- do I upgrade to Xsan 1.3 on 10.3.9 first, and then upgrade to 10.4?
Also.. I still have to upgrade the RAID firmware to 1.5 because after downloading and installing RAID 1.5, it won't launch. Anybody have ideas on that? It just bounces in the doc twice and then quits. So.. I can't update the firmware.

Thanks for everyone's guidance on this process. I completed my upgrade yesterday. All is running smoothly. I thought I would post a brief description of my experience which may help others.
Background:
I have a very basic Xsan setup: 1ea Xserve G5 controller, 2ea G5/Dual 2.5GHz clients, a Sanbox fibre switch, and 2ea Linksys gigabit switches. All three machines were running Xsan 1.1 on OS X 10.3.9 Panther. I needed to get one of my two client machines running Tiger. So... due to Xsan compatibility issues, I had to upgrade everything to OS X 10.4.6 Tiger and Xsan 1.3. I also needed to upgrade my Xserve RAID to the latest firmware (v1.5).
Upgrade Process:
I began this process with all three machines running. Although the Xsan volume was 'running', it was not mounted on any of the machines. My Xserve is designated as the primary controller (High priority); both clients are backup controllers (Med and Low priority).
Here's what I did to get to 10.4.6 and Xsan 1.3:
1) Upgraded the XServe to OS X Server 10.4 using install DVD. This required a server restart which caused Xsan to switch to my 'Med' client machine as the controller. I verified this by running Xsan Admin 1.1 on the client machine; it saw only the two clients (just as it should).
2) After restart, used Software Update on the Xserve to bring it up to OS X Server 10.4.6. This included the 'Xsan 1.2 Update for 10.4' and 'Xsan Admin 1.2 Update' along with a bunch of other misc updates (Java, WebObjects, Security..). Restarted.
3) Ran Xsan Admin 1.2 on the server. It was controlling the Xsan volume (which was still running). Both clients were still visible as backup controllers. I did not attempt to mount the Xsan volume
4) Installed OS X 10.4.3 Tiger Upgrade from DVD on Client1. Restarted.
5) After restart, used Software Update to bring Client1 up to OS X 10.4.6. This included the 'Xsan 1.2 Update for 10.4' and 'Xsan Admin 1.2 Update' along with a bunch of other misc updates (Java, Garageband, QuickTime). Restarted.
6) Used Software Update to bring Client2 up to OS X 10.4.6. This included the 'Xsan 1.2 Update for 10.4' and 'Xsan Admin 1.2 Update' along with a bunch of other misc updates (Java, Garageband, QuickTime). Restarted.
7) So.. at this point everything is running OS X 10.4.6 (the latest OS) and Xsan 1.2. And.. Xsan Admin 1.2 still running on the server. But... for some unknown reason, the 'Clients' tab no longer shows the Server as an available client. It only shows my two G5's as clients. Wierd and scary!! I quit and relaunched Xsan Admin 1.2, did a 'Refresh, but it made no difference. The '1. Computers' tab for the SAN itself does show all three computers (as controllers), but the 'Clients' list for this volume only shows my two client workstations (both 'Not mounted'). I decided to hold my nose and continue (such is life with Xsan...).
8) Used Xsan Admin 1.2 on the Server to 'Stop' the Xsan volume.
9) Launched Terminal on the Server and ran the 'cvfsck' disk utility on my Xsan volume. Here is what I typed into terminal:
sudo cvfsck Napoleon
(my volume is named 'Napoleon') I did have to authenticate with an Admin-level password. The utility took 5-10 min to run on my 5TB raid. Most of the time is just showed a static cursor in the Terminal window, but then the errors appeared. It reported 50+ errors, all of the same type. Here is a sample of what each error was like:
Error: Inode 0x804caa865e6e nsubnirs count is 34 - should be 18. Fixed.
The utility completed with all errors 'fixed.' Quit out of Terminal.
10) Used Xsan Admin 1.2 on the Server to 'Start' the Xsan volume back up.
11) Used Software Update on the Xserve to install the 'Xsan 1.3 Update for 10.4' and 'Xsan Admin 1.3 Update'. Restarted.
12) Ran Xsan Admin 1.3 on the Server. Now.. the Server does show in both the Computers list (as the primary controller) and in the Clients list (still not mounted, of course).
13) On Client1, used Software Update to install the 'Xsan 1.3 Update for 10.4' and 'Xsan Admin 1.3 Update' along with a bunch of other misc updates (iCal, iDVD, etc). Restarted.
14) On Client2, used Software Update to install the 'Xsan 1.3 Update for 10.4' and 'Xsan Admin 1.3 Update' along with a bunch of other misc updates (iCal, iDVD, etc). Restarted.
15) So.. now everything is running OS X 10.4.6 Tiger and Xsan 1.3. Xsan Admin 1.3 on the Server shows all three machines as both Controllers and Clients. The Xsan volume is 'running' but not mounted on any of the machines.
16) Used Xsan Admin 1.3 on the Server to 'Stop' the Xsan volume.
17) Launched Terminal on the Server and ran the 'cvfsck' disk utility on the Xsan volume. Here is what I typed into terminal:
sudo cvfsck Napoleon
This time no errors were reported, although terminal did produce a very nice report detailing what was going on as the Xsan volume was checked (thank you Apple!). Quit Terminal.
18) Used Xsan Admin 1.3 on the Server to 'Start' the Xsan volume back up.
19) And now for the big moment... Used Xsan Admin 1.3 on the Server to mount the Xsan volume on Client1. It took a little longer than nomal, but it did mount. I immediately browsed through the volume and copied a large folder to the Client1 desktop. Worked great. Copied the same folder back to the Xsan volume. Worked great. Deleted the folder in both places and emptied Trash. Worked great. I repeated this same mount/copy/delete process with Client2. Everything was working great!!
Now it was time to upgrade the RAID firmware to v1.5:
20) Used Xsan Admin 1.3 to unmount the Xsan volume on both clients. I then 'stopped' the volume and quit out of Xsan Admin.
21) Downloaded the RAID Admin 1.5 update and installed it.
22) Ran RAID Admin 1.5 and connected to my Xserve RAID. Used the menu command 'Update firmware...' to begin the process. It asks you to locate the firmware source file on disk. The entire update process took about 15 min to complete. The RAID restarted after the update. After seeing all green lights on the RAID, I quit RAID Admin 1.5.
23) Launched Xsan Admin 1.3 on the Server to 'Start' the Xsan volume.
24) Used Xsan Admin 1.3 on Server to mount the Xsan volume on both clients. Both mounted just fine.
And now I'm up to date
I know this is a long description, but I wish that I had had someone else's detailed log before I headed into this overly complex upgrade process (Apple... please make this easier going forward!). Hope it helps someone else.
John Christensen
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817.690.8385
G5 Mac OS X (10.3.9) XServe, XServe Raid, Xsan

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I used to do it all the time on my windows pc box and i'd always reformat the harddrive and start with a clean slate so to speak. That usually yeilded the best results for me. Should I start from scrtach on my mac as well or do the Archive and Install?
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