Java FX vs Flash

Hello,
I would try to develop with some RichClient Systems (Most simple Games).
On the first site is Java FX. I would like to develop it for my company and because I developing with java since 5 year. But I think that all example on the javafx.com page are so slow and if they startet 10 seconds or more left..
On the other site Flash. It starts very fast and the flash player is installed on every computer. But I must lean a new programming language.. I tried to develop with Flash but I found no way to progamm it, there are only designer tools or something else.. not like eclipse... So I never get a simple example running...
That you think? I need a fast api with network and thread features.. Is Java fx "good" and fast enough for Games and other applications? Or do I need Flash for developing games into a Browser?
Thanks for your opinion!

You can develop games with JavaFX and I have found FX's performance fast, once JavaFX loads. That though is the frustration for me. JavaFX applications take too long to load. It isn't that Java apps load slowly, you can make a very fast loading Java applet or application.
For an example, I watched the US President's weekly address yesterday. The video was in Flash. It loaded instantly. I then went over to JavaFX.com and watched some JavaFX videos. First the applet had to load, then the video had to buffer! A total of 10 seconds from going to the page and the video starting to play. I have a Dual core PC with Vista and high speed cable internet, so it isn't my pc.
Developing with JavaFX is a brease with NetBeans or the SDK, and the documentation is good. Also, deployment is super easy with webstart or just the applet. The thing you have to weigh is how important start up time is to you.

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