JDEV 10.1.3 and the outside world
This vesrion of JDEV is excellent when working within a database framework. In fact it is too good, with very little documentation to cover all of the possiblities. But it appears to be database bound.
Can someone tell me, point me to, or reference if and how well JDEV can be used to communicate with other applications, external i/o data streams, XML translation, etc.
I'm trying to decide if this is the right environment for a new project or if another IDE like VS.NET or Borland would be more appropriate. I've used them all but have the least experience with JDEV and its capabilities.
Thanks
Mike
Beyond excellent interaction with database oriented application, JDeveloper also has great features for working with other data sources.
For example you can create data controls for: Web services, XML files, and any Java class. These will allow you to use the drag and drop data binding with these data sources as well.
Here is a sample of how a Web service can be used in an ADF based application:
http://www.oracle.com/technology/products/jdev/viewlets/1013/WebServicesAndADF_viewlet_swf.html
For more infomration you might want to read the ADF Developer Guide:
For example the chapter about Web services data controls:
http://www.oracle.com/webapps/online-help/jdeveloper/10.1.3/state/content/navId.4/navSetId._/vtAnchor.CJAJGIEB/vtTopicFile.adfdevguide%7Cweb_services%7Ehtm/
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is the best practice here?
The only solution I can see is the following:
1. Change the Network on the Default Receive Connector to only internal IP addresses.
2. Create a new Internet Receive Connector port 25 for external IP addresses (not sure what to put in Network tab?) and use my external FQDN for ehlo responses (e.g. mail.domain.com)
3. What do I pick for Auth and Permissions, TLS and Annoymous only?
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Michael Maxwell
Understand. I wont go into the value of those tests :)
If the customer is really concerned about exposing the internal name, then create a new receive connector with a different FQDN ( and corresponding cert) for anonymous connections as you mention above. Know that it also means internal clients
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How to expose a web service to the outside world?
Hello,
i have created a Web service from a Session bean and successfully published it on one of my UDDI registries using the Admin tool.
At this point, what do I need to do further in order to expose this Web service not just in our LAN but to the outside world?
RoyOffcourse it should be published at UDDI.
Four play key roles in Web services: Universal Description, Discovery and Integration (UDDI), Web Services Description Language (WSDL), Web Services Inspection Language (WSIL), SOAP, and Web Services Interoperability (WS-I).
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If you cannot work out a static IP address or direct access to your VM from outside, perhaps simple port forwarding may work in your case, which will automatically forward all traffic to a certain port on your host computer to the network of your VM, but then you won't be able to choose.
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Good Day,
I'm new at JAVA language, I'm basicly a C++ programmer, but I wanted to get inside the java world and know what is it all about, I have the motivation to make it my 1st lang.
But, there is a question, is it used widely like the other old and new languages, what makes it a better choice to develope with, what is the advantages I mean ??!!
is it ready for a real huge application from the real world??
give me an example
thanks in advanceDon't hold your breath ...by that I mean it will be
better in some ways and the same in most ways.
My point is that the future of computing, its
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Relay Mail from FAX Machine to the Outside World via GMAIL
Hey everyone, I am not really sure I am in the right place here, but I am tired of running into a brick wall over this issue.
Here is my basic issue:
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The machine does not support SSL authentication, and for that matter I believe it requires an open relay to work (that is what Ricoh told me).
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POP Server:
Host Name:
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Hello. First, let me say - I'm a mail newbie, so be gentle.
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Admin$ postconf -n
command_directory = /usr/sbin
config_directory = /etc/postfix
content_filter =
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enableserveroptions = yes
html_directory = no
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mynetworks_style = host
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queue_directory = /private/var/spool/postfix
readme_directory = /usr/share/doc/postfix
sample_directory = /usr/share/doc/postfix/examples
sendmail_path = /usr/sbin/sendmail
setgid_group = postdrop
smtpdpw_server_securityoptions = none
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[solved] Postfix smtp filtered to the outside world
Hi,
I set up postfix+dovecot successfully except postfix smtp. I can't connect to smtp from a remote network. nmap shows:
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VLANs unable to reach outside world
I just purchased a Cisco 1941 ISR for my home lab and I'm running into a problem with getting all my devices behind it to get to the internet. Below is a layout of my network.
I have 7 VLANs on an SG300-20 layer 3 switch. The switch is connected to my 1941 ISR. I have cable and my ISP is Comcast and they provide a cable modem/router as well. Unfortunately I cannot get rid of this device and I cannot turn off the routing functionality, however I don't actually think that this devices itself is causing any problems with the way I have it setup. I have a block of 5 static IP's from my ISP. I've used one of them as the IP address of my WAN link (G0/1), while the other interface is connected to my LAN (G0/0).
I have interVLAN networking working just fine. I'm able to ping any VLAN gateway and/or host from any other device (this includes my switch and ISR). From my switch or any device behind it, I can ping the switch (10.1.8.1), I can ping my router (10.1.8.2), and I can even ping my router's WAN link (75.148.101.25). However, I cannot ping comcast's router (75.148.101.30). What is weird is that I can ssh into my ISR (which I can do from any device) and the Cisco router can ping the Comcast router and the outside world.
If I try to ping 75.138.101.30 (Comcast external IP) from my switch or any device behind it, I get no response. If I try to ping 75.138.101.30 (Comcast external IP) from the Cisco 1941 I get a response.
To me this looks like a problem with the Cisco router. It knows where to forward traffic but is refusing to do so for anything that does not originate from the router itself.
Very lost at this point and looking for help.
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raynor#show running-config
Building configuration...
Current configuration : 1827 bytes
! Last configuration change at 23:18:53 UTC Sat Aug 16 2014 by jschaeffer
! NVRAM config last updated at 23:20:33 UTC Sat Aug 16 2014 by jschaeffer
version 15.1
service timestamps debug datetime msec
service timestamps log datetime msec
no service password-encryption
hostname raynor
boot-start-marker
boot-end-marker
enable secret 5 $6$t7$FHadfus1vHhykVc2QolPwTz/
no aaa new-model
no ipv6 cef
ip source-route
ip cef
ip domain name harmonywave.com
ip name-server 75.75.75.75
ip name-server 75.75.75.76
multilink bundle-name authenticated
crypto pki token default removal timeout 0
license udi pid CISCO1941/K9 sn FGL172610ZP
username jschaeffer secret 5 $1$IQxQ$DtfZuO78mBeiEbsVD95Afq1
username ckrupa one-time secret 5 $1$HAnq$$faaybor7t7wqewOqFLm9u0
ip ssh version 2
interface GigabitEthernet0/0
description WAN link
ip address 75.148.101.25 255.255.255.248
ip nat outside
ip virtual-reassembly in
no ip route-cache cef
no ip route-cache
duplex auto
speed auto
no cdp enable
interface GigabitEthernet0/1
description LAN link
ip address 10.1.8.2 255.255.255.0
ip nat inside
ip virtual-reassembly in
no ip route-cache cef
no ip route-cache
duplex auto
speed auto
no cdp enable
ip forward-protocol nd
no ip http server
no ip http secure-server
ip route 0.0.0.0 0.0.0.0 75.148.101.30
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ip route 10.1.10.32 255.255.255.224 10.1.8.1
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no cdp run
control-plane
line con 0
logging synchronous
line aux 0
line vty 0 4
login local
transport input ssh
line vty 5 15
login local
transport input ssh
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FTP and the virus that is connecting outside the network
I have a problem that has been talked about on this forum, but without a resolution I have found yet. All the posts are unanswered, which tells me that either the person figured out the problem, or it was never resolved and they went on to another solution.
I have no problem connecting on out 10.x.x.x network, however, on the outside, many problems. The server is on the DMZ, installed in a very large network of switches and doodads. However, this server does have a direct connection to the outside world via the DMZ. It is running OSX server 10.4.7 and it has no connectivity issues with port 80 outside whatsoever. On FTP, big problems outside the the network however. I have gone through the firewall and enabled every possible thing on the any and 192(?) services, at least as it might relate to FTP. That includes, ftp, secure ftp, UDP/TCP in out.. All that jazz.
On the client side I have used Fetch 5, Transmit (latest version), and of course Terminal. All with similar effects. I can login, it gives me the welcome dialogs, when I connect, and when I finally login. The server seems very responsive. As soon as I initiate 'ls', it locks up. In transit is comes back that the connection timed out and died. In fetch it tells me that there is a firewall problem. As soon as I disable passive mode on the client side it just hangs. When I use terminal I get this:
Remote system type is UNIX.
Using binary mode to transfer files.
ftp> list
?Invalid command.
ftp> ls
502 'EPSV': command not understood.
227 Entering Passive Mode (209,130,203,108,199,99)
200 PORT command successful.
Then it just hangs until it says:
421 Service not available, remote server timed out. Connection closed
I'm open to any suggestions. What could it be that's causing such a problem. I can't imaging it's firewall related, but maybe I forgot to free some port.
By the way, non of the other servers have any problems with FTP access. This includes 1 xserve, and 10 mac mini's that are functioning as minor servers (quite well i might add, in a controlled room the temps are nice and cool and they are very reliable).
This server is also on a G4 mac mini. It is backed up once a week and scheduled to reboot every week. Don't ask me why, but it seems slower if you don't do that once a week, maybe a scripts thing. Dunno.
I know this has been a LONG post, but I appreciate anyone that has read this far, and hope you have a suggestion.
ThanksNothing? I was kinda hoping for some sort of lead at least.
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It was a dark and stormy night...
For the past eight years, I had been happy with Verizon wireless service. Great coverage and rarely a dropped call. However, all of that changed when I moved into a lovely mid-century modern condominium. The solid concrete walls and ceilings were blocking my attempts to communicate with the outside world (i.e. order pizza).
Enter the Verizon Wireless Network Extender! My own personal cell tower! Alas, the VWNE was $250, which was a lot of money. So, being the resourceful recycling advocate that I am, I procured a refurbished one and hooked it up to my network. Then I called Verizon to begin what would soon become one of the Bottom 10 Least Enjoyable Experiences in customer service history (note: obvious foreshadowing).
The first technician I spoke with was Benjamin, who was actually quite helpful. He noted the VWNE's MAC address and other information before attempting to allow me to access my unit. But he could not. Why? Apparently the unit was still registered to another Verizon customer. He told me the matter would be forwarded to "Verizon Correspondence Support" who would contact the registered owner and get their approval to reassign the unit.
A week later, I called in to ask about the status of my request, but was told by Darryl (another tech from the VWNE department) that the "Verizon Correspondence Support" department did not exist. Did. Not. Exist? Fine, I explained the situation again, and Darryl eventually told me he would submit a special access form which may resolve the problem. He apologized for the mixup, thanked me for my patience, and told me to wait 24-48 hours for his return call with the results.
120 hours later, I called to ask about the status of the change access form because I had not received a callback. Michelle, another representative of VWNE support, told me there was no record of this form having been submitted. No. Record...? After which, she made no effort to help me after reading through my transcript. In fact, quite the opposite. To paraphrase...
"I'm sorry we wasted two weeks of your time leading you to believe we had a solution. Actually, there is no Verizon Correspondence Department, there is no special access form, and no tech will be calling you back. Furthermore, I will not allow you to use our unit because the previous owner hasn't filled out Release Form 27B stroke 6. For all I know it might have been stolen. Perhaps by you? I guess we'll never know for sure, because I won't contact the owner for any reason. In fact, there is nothing I can do to help you whatsoever. But if you like, feel free to throw our network adapter in a landfill. Thank you and have a nice day."
OK Michelle, here's the deal. I don't even WANT this doohickey. You see, all I want is for my phone to work. That's why I am calling you. To get THIS piece of your equipment working, at my expense, so that I can continue to be a Verizon customer. Seems like I'm doing my part. Why is this so difficult?
"Sorry"
Lesson of the story? DON'T BE A MICHELLE. If a customer is in trouble and you can't solve his/her problem, contact a supervisor and work out an alternative. In my example, perhaps Verizon could have provided me with an "official" VWNE? At a discount? Or have a technician sent out to examine the signal? Really, *anything* is better than being brushed off. After being brushed off.
After being brushed off.Follow up: I acquired another VWNE from a local seller, just in case he had to be contacted for the Nuclear Priority Phone Release Code (geez). Ironically, it wasn't necessary, because said fellow had already left Verizon after too many negative customer service issues. Oops.
The good news is that Verizon was able to properly activate the second unit. I was connected to a VWNE tech named Bertha who was VERY helpful and treated me like a human being. Which made all the difference and restored my faith in humanity. I requested that my story be relayed to upper management so that the hordes of secondhand VWNE buyers wouldn't also get burned by Verizon's "hands off and look elsewhere" policy. Bingo. Finally. Done.
Epilogue: Until Verizon eases up on their needlessly stringent policy, beware the unchecked VWNE! Be sure to get the MAC code and check it with a local store/tech support before buying it. -
So upon a few days of playing and reflection, a few things are clear. Actually they've been coming into focus for a while and it's been pretty clear if you've been paying attention.
Bear in mind that I'm not bitter or angry about this, it's just business. But the bottom line is we need to find other solutions and move on.
1. Apple is no longer in the Professional market
Please let's not argue over "Professional". Obviously I don't mean if you upload to youtube you don't do good work. There is some genius work being done by kids sitting in the living room with an iMac. No doubt. "Professional" has nothing to do with quality. It has to do with worklfow, clients, and commerce. If you run a facility, you need to move away from Apple solutions. I'm not saying Apple won't magically add the features to FCPX to make it work for facilities, but it's so far off right now that it's not even in the discussion. To people who've never hired editors, or collaborated with audio post house, etc etc, please don't argue. Take my word for it when I say you might as well suggest that a facility begin deploying iMovie in their suites.
By the way, this is not only about video post production. Look across their product lines. Apple changed the game with low cost editing solutions, so we have them to thank for that. Be grateful it happened at all, and now look for other solutions. It was great while it lasted but it's over, at least from Apple.
2. Apple doesn't generally make these kinds of mistakes
Which is why I don't think it was a mistake. I don't think the product managers are particularly surprised by the reaction. Maybe they are disappointed, but I'll bet you anything they saw it coming. It's just part of the strategy. And that strategy involves selling more seats at a cheaper price to all the people buying DSLRs and finally shooting that movie they've had brewing in the back of their head. Which is great, and I don't begrudge them that at all. But essentially FCPX is not a replacement for FCP7. It's a replacement for FCP Express.
3. Apple might add the features necessary to use in a profession environment.
I'll grant that this is a possibility, but right now it feels like a long way off. And if you are running a shop you need one thing above all else. A plan. And if you don't know that these features are coming, why on earth would you spend any time investing in training? I doesn't make any sense. There are so many things missing that I just don't see it happening. For starters, I've never hired an editor that didn't completely re-arrange the layout of FCP to suit their style of working. The list goes on. Yes, there are some cool things in FCPX. We may even install it on the machines so we can modify some shots using those tools. I'm not sure, we need to keep investigating. But as facility tool it's a non-starter.
4. Why does a one man band care?
Well, here's where it gets tricky. And this is why this version may be a miscalculation on Apple's part. Even somebody sitting alone, editing at 10x speed due to FCPX's "revolutionary workflow" will likely eventually need to communicate with the outside world. Suppose you edit your masterpiece, submit it to a festival, but the audio *****? You realize this is your big break, but you don't have the skills to sweeting the audio yourself. Now what? Autoduck to OMF I suppose. Or maybe you've gotten your edit 90% there and you need a rock star editor to come in and really finish it off. Erm... who would that be, exactly? So I guess my point is, unless some real interchange is built in quick, people are going to be sandboxed without the ability to exchange and collaborate. And collaboration is the lifeblood of this industry.
5. What now?
Well, the prevailing attitude seems to be "What's your problem? Keep using FCP7 you Dinosaur Who Hates Progress! What, you want to go back to floppies too?!" I'm sure we will keep using FCP7, but eventually it's a dead end. There will be system update which fixes some other bug and simultaneously breaks something in FCP. So we'll be in a trap. Not to mention having no hope of the existing bugs (gamma shifts, cough) never being fixed. But the real issue is access to labor. Essentially there are Avid editors and there are FCP editors (with a lot of them doing both). I've never once tried to hire a Premiere editor, though I suppose it's possible some know Premiere it or could find their way around it, but I'm not exactly willing to pay an editor to learn how to navigate the UI. So... for this one I suppose what we'll do is add a Media Composer to an edit suite and start using Premiere on the graphics workstations and see how that goes.
There is obviously a split on this board. So to those of you who don't understand why many professionals have a negative reaction to this release, maybe this post will help explain why. It has nothing to do with "progress" of the fear thereof. I'll no doubt personally keep playing with FCPX at home to see what it has to offer, but generally speaking I use tools that play nice with other tools. For all the hysterical reaction, well, I *do* get it. It's bit like having the rug pulled out from under you. But oh well. It's not the end of the world. There are other tools out there. Personally I'm starting to wonder if Motion isn't the real story here.
And like I said, maybe Apple *does* have a plan for adding the required functionality. If they do, I wished they'd tell us straight up. I'd cheer that news. I'm just not convinced that they have any desire to be in this market any more. Apple didn't exit the professional marked because they hate you. I'm sure they did it because it wasn't profitable to them. Apple (or any company) doesn't really make emotional decisions, they make economic ones. We need to do the same.
Gary Jaeger // Core Studio
<Personal Information Edited by Host>VERY well said. Everyone who is furious and feels betrayed uses the word "clients"
All the folks calling us Ludite Greybeards have NEVER dealt with a client.
The only thing that i would disagree with is that i DO think this is a massive mistake. This isn't the Steve Jobs Apple Corp that we knew and loved (yes, past tense). I don't think anybodys hands are on the wheel of this ship.
They were the dominant, industry standard... and they snuffed a once proud FCP franchise out of existence in one day.
And this makes me VERY worried about Lion.
Speaking of Lion, in one months time.... you will only be able to buy new Macs that have Lion. And you can't install FCP7 under Lion (and you can't buy FCP7 anyway). So this is an absolute end of the road for any pro shop. Right now. Today.
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